SET and MET class ratings

[outside_loop]

i was getting some info from my licence yesterday and happened to notice the existence of SET (single engine turbine) and MET (multi) class ratings in the abbreviations section.

never heard of these before, i thought planes of those types would require a type rating (eg king air)... anyone know what they're for?

perhaps its for turboprops or for the ex-military jets some people operate -jet prov / hunter etc.

ta.

[gcolyer]

SET and MET are class ratings the same as SEP and MEP.

A rating for say a King Air is a "Type rating"

Having a class rating does not mean you are rated to fly type.

Prime example and ATPL rated pilot who has a type rating for a Dash 8 cannot fly a SAAB 340 without a SAAB 340 type rating.

[BackPacker]

I think what outside_loop meant was: are there any single or multi turbine aircraft out there that do not require an individual type rating?

[gcolyer]

Either way you still must have the class rating in order to add the type rating.

[S-Works]

As I understand you do not require a Class rating to get a type rating, you just get a type rating.

There are some turbine aicraft that just require a Class rating rather than a type rating. I seem to recall the Cessna caravan as such an example.

[englishal]

Just get an FAA ticket, then you can fly SET and MET below aeroplanes below 12501 lbs without a type rating (E.g. King Air 200 which is 12500 lbs)......but your ticket must be standalone, a piggyback one doesn't count.

As to whether this privilege carrys across to G registered aeroplanes (as it does for the SEP and MEP) I am not sure. I *think* that for private privileges it does.

[outside_loop]

thanks for the replies.

yes - i guess the turbine caravan is a likely contender, as i'm pretty sure theres no type rating for it, but you presumably cant fly it on a SEP rating (there being no pistons in the engine!)

and the turbine islander needs the MET class rating then?

also - the piper malibu (the piston one, not the turboprop) has its own rating of some description doesnt it? cant be flow on a SEP if i recall...

i'm not a spotter - honest!!!

[Whopity]

and the turbine islander needs the MET class rating then?

No there is no such thing as a Multi Engine Turbine Class in Europe, all M/E Turbines are Type rated.

JAR–FCL 1.215 Class ratings (A)
(a) Divisions. Class ratings shall be established for single-pilot aeroplanes not requiring a type rating as follows:
(1) all single-engine piston aeroplanes (land);
(2) all single-engine piston aeroplanes (sea);
(3) all touring motor gliders;
(4) each manufacturer of single engine turbo-prop aeroplanes (land);
(5) each manufacturer of single engine turbo-prop aeroplanes (sea);
(6) all multi-engine piston aeroplanes (land); and
(7) all multi-engine piston aeroplanes (sea).

[outside_loop]

thanks whopity, that settles it then!

[julian_storey]

thanks for the replies.

yes - i guess the turbine caravan is a likely contender, as i'm pretty sure theres no type rating for it, but you presumably cant fly it on a SEP rating (there being no pistons in the engine!)

and the turbine islander needs the MET class rating then?

also - the piper malibu (the piston one, not the turboprop) has its own rating of some description doesnt it? cant be flow on a SEP if i recall...

i'm not a spotter - honest!!!

To fly a Caravan (if I recall correctly) you need a Cessna SET class rating which would cover the Caravan and also possibly the Cessna 206 with the Solloy turbine conversion.

There is a type rating for a BN2T Turbine Islander.

Finally, as you say, quite peculiarly the PA46 (Piston Malibu) requires a type rating in Europe although God alone knows why. You could fly an ´N´ reg PA46 on your FAA licence with NO type rating provided you had been signed off for retratable gear, high performance, pressurisation etc.

I'm not a spotter either