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Old 11th Jan 2008, 05:19
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A weightshift - quite a lot!

A proper 3-axis - anytime. Currently do most of my flying in a sportstar in LSA guise (100kg more MTOW over UK microlight), on a conventional register (not microlight, so regular hours in the book), and love it. Costs the same as a C150 to hire, similar cruise, much better performance, more comfort, quieter and plain fun to fly. (I do have a soft spot for the 150 tho). Only downsides are more limiting crosswind performance, and a tendancy to get bumped around more.

Interestingly those friends I take as pax are *more* comfortable with the sportstar vs the 150/172/warriors. Not an educated position viewpoint, but 'cos it's a lot shinier and doesn't look like it should have retired 30 years ago.
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It was like sitting on the bog at 2000 feet
There have been times when I wished I was.......
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Old 11th Jan 2008, 20:10
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Glad to see that Ken Wells enjoyed his flight over the falls, the aircraft is an aerotrike from S.A. flown by myself and my mate "Smithy", when we ran "Batoka Sky".Fond memories.......
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Speaking as a pilot of "the spam can" to get me in a bike with a bit of canvas over the top would require something of an exothermic reaction! Ino ther words when hell freezes over I'll think about it!

There has been a lot of discussion about strngth, and I am sure that microlights are strong, but they are also LIGHT! I don't like flying a 150 as it seems to suffer the winds a little more than a warrior or 172 that are heavier. What the hell does a thermic day do to a microlight??

Don't get me wrong, turbulence is a part of flying, but when you are constantly fighting to remain straight and level in a PA28, what chance is there in something smaller??
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Speaking as a pilot of "the spam can" to get me in a bike with a bit of canvas over the top would require something of an exothermic reaction! Ino ther words when hell freezes over I'll think about it!

There has been a lot of discussion about strngth, and I am sure that microlights are strong, but they are also LIGHT! I don't like flying a 150 as it seems to suffer the winds a little more than a warrior or 172 that are heavier. What the hell does a thermic day do to a microlight??

Don't get me wrong, turbulence is a part of flying, but when you are constantly fighting to remain straight and level in a PA28, what chance is there in something smaller??
Get yourself a flight in one and then tell me that it wasn't fun!
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What the hell does a thermic day do to a microlight??
Makes it bloody hard work! Which is why I rarely fly during the heat of the day. Early mornings (If I can drag myself out of bed), or late afternoon onwards are the best time to fly one of these. Try it then and you might be pleasantly surprised.....
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What the hell does a thermic day do to a microlight??
For a nice light modern 3 axis machine it can help you save fuel if you use the activity to yourt advantage.

Gliders love such days and can travel for hours and hundreds of miles on no fuel. Microlighters can make the most of thermals and save fuel.

Being able to climb at 300ft per minute with the throtle closed can't be bad for a powered aircraft.

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Old 12th Jan 2008, 18:57
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What would get me up in a microlight?

Enough spare time to do the annual + permit renewal on mine, then to fly it. Since it's currently 8pm on Saturday evening and I'm still working, this seems unlikely right now.

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hours loggable for SPE and costing less

I had a flight in a weight shift a couple of years ago when looking for a cheap way to get back into flying (lapsed SEP PPL) - whilst it was fun to be back up in the sky, when I looked into the cost of dual and solo hire it wasn't far off the cheaper end of the SEP range. And as microlight hours aren't loggable, the benefits weren't there for me.
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Microlights... not really any good ..?

Wouldn't want to fly one in anything over 40kn X-wind.
Strips any shorter than 100 yards to be avoided.
Real trouble with that old mogas stuff.. only sold countrywide at 1/2 price of Avgas.

Other than that... probably OK.
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Old 13th Jan 2008, 13:31
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And as microlight hours aren't loggable
Only if you are hourbuilding for an ATPL, or want to use them to let you fly an SEP. Otherwise they are part of your total flying experience, and count towards (of course) your microlight experience.

What's important? Flying hours and experience - or status as a PPL(SEP)?

I fly both generally, but given a blunt choice I'd take the former in microlights. In syndicates I'm paying about £30/hr for microlight flying, and £70/hr for an interesting large SEP, so microlights offer about twice as much for my money. Even if I just use a slow microlight for touring it works out at a similar £/mile (at-least solo or 2-up) I just fly more hours - shame that!

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The Offer would be nice

Thanks
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Old 13th Jan 2008, 14:28
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True pilots will fly anything at least once ..
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Speaking as a pilot of "the spam can" to get me in a bike with a bit of canvas over the top would require something of an exothermic reaction! Ino ther words when hell freezes over I'll think about it!

There has been a lot of discussion about strngth, and I am sure that microlights are strong, but they are also LIGHT! I don't like flying a 150 as it seems to suffer the winds a little more than a warrior or 172 that are heavier. What the hell does a thermic day do to a microlight??

Don't get me wrong, turbulence is a part of flying, but when you are constantly fighting to remain straight and level in a PA28, what chance is there in something smaller??
Don't fight it - 'go with the flow'. It's easier on the aeroplane and far more pleasant.

Try a microlight - I guarantee bucketloads more fun than any spamcan (not diffiicult!).
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Microlights are fun, and as safe or unsafe as any other aircraft - ie pretty safe if you learn properly and fly within your own and the aircraft's limitations. I do know what I'm talking about; I soloed one, but then decided that three different control systems and that many different aircraft in which to maintain currency was maybe one too many. If I ever can't pass Class 1 medicals and instruct on helicopters, I might well go back to microlights - of either type. Microlight clubs also have quite a good social scene.

I'm amazed that a thread started by someone who showed such complete and utter ignorance of what they were talking about should have generated so much interest. But then, I joined in also, so there you are.
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Old 13th Jan 2008, 16:31
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Microlights

I have been flying Tin for 25 years (mainly Pipers, Arrows to Navajos) before discovering microlights. Five years later, I own one, I commute in one and I manufature them!

I still fly tin, but the microlght (Thruster T600N) is still the one that puts the grin on my face, and I believe is the safest thing I fly. (Down to the low inertia). 50% of my return flights home, I switch the engine off at 1,200' and 1.5nm and glide home.

I know several that regularly journey to France, two up with camping gear.

"Give it a try".
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Old 13th Jan 2008, 17:37
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Not cheap, though, are they? You can buy a Cub for quite a lot less than a new weightshift with 4-stroke, or a Jabirou Thruster.

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Old 13th Jan 2008, 18:02
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And microlight hours aren't loggable

Only if you are hourbuilding for an ATPL, or want to use them to let you fly an SEP
If you are an NPPL flyer, I believe you will soon be able to use SSEA (SEP in old money) and microlight hours to keep your licence current; as long as you have both ratings on your licence. (Ditto for TMG if that's on your licence too)

Eg, if say 12 hours needed biannually, you could be current with 10 micro, 1 SSEA and 1 TMG.

CG

BTW I am NOT suggesting that that'll mean you're 'current' current. That's a matter for the individual and his/her hirer.

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comparing a Brand new Thruster to an old Cub, it maybe cheaper- just- but like for like and the microlight will be cheaper,a nd running costs are a fraction of eaven Cub costs
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Old 14th Jan 2008, 13:28
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Bakota Sky

Great to hear from you. That was a great trip over Vic Falls, How are you doing?

One of the things I will always remember was flying at 20' down some tracks looking for Rhino's and the fact that animals seem to ignore Microlights but "hide" from Helicopters and fixed wing.

A mate of mine Roddy flew PA28's out of Vic falls doing tourist flights. But you could never get close to the wild life as you could in a Microlight.

That photo was taken in 1997, never forget to hospitality you guys showed us. Vic falls was a great place unitl Adolph Mubabe destoyed Zimbawe. No wonder you based yourself over the border in Zambia!

Thanks again.

Ken[IMG][/IMG]
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