Training at Netherthorpe
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From: heathrow
Hence the reason we use the CAA recommended 1.33 and 1.43 and do not allow our aircraft into Netherthorpe.
Roll on EASA
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From: North Notts, UK
UK AIP for Nethers:
a) Aerodrome is not available for public transport passenger flights required to use a licensed aerodrome
b) PPR may be refused to certain aircraft types. Inexperienced pilots are to phone for advice before arriving at Netherthorpe and are to contact a member of staff for a short briefing before departure
Having said that, we have over fifty aircraft based at Nethers, including more complex types such as commanches and an apache twin. We have also just had the regular CAA inspection with no problems.
Come and pay us a visit, folks - great place to brush up on your short/soft field techniques and a top notch clubhouse in which to watch the comings/goings whilst enjoying your bacon butty (or huge sunday lunch).
Camaro
a) Aerodrome is not available for public transport passenger flights required to use a licensed aerodrome
b) PPR may be refused to certain aircraft types. Inexperienced pilots are to phone for advice before arriving at Netherthorpe and are to contact a member of staff for a short briefing before departure
Having said that, we have over fifty aircraft based at Nethers, including more complex types such as commanches and an apache twin. We have also just had the regular CAA inspection with no problems.
Come and pay us a visit, folks - great place to brush up on your short/soft field techniques and a top notch clubhouse in which to watch the comings/goings whilst enjoying your bacon butty (or huge sunday lunch).
Camaro
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From: heathrow
Inexperienced pilots are to phone for advice before arriving at Netherthorpe and are to contact a member of staff for a short briefing before departure
Coming to see you soon, by road!
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From: South Yorkshire, UK
...and a b****r to find by air too - even if you know it's there!
I trained with Phoenix at Netherthorpe as well as an IMC and the still CFI does my IMC renewals even though I now fly from a long strip of tarmac 10 nms away. They're a top bunch and the instructors were universally professional, competent and friendly. I recently saw one of my former instructors instructing at SAC and there has been movement in both directions over the years. Other than price I don't think there's anything to choose between the two and Phoenix must be among the cheapest hourly rates in the counrty. Most Phoenix Flyers are social member of SAC (at much lower cost than flying members), which gives them access to the club house, but there was always free tea and coffee (albeit in scummy cups) at Phoenix.
Basically, which school you use will be a personal choice and both are good and both will teach you proper short field technique which you will never learn properly on a long tarmac runway.
Grass field, but underlain by sandy soil, so rarely waterlogged. 24 is 3 deg uphill, so all the water's at the bottom in any event
In my day we used 150s, like real men. None of this 'guarantee to get you over the hedge nancy 130 hp Aerobat' nonsense. Where's the thrill in knowing on every take-off that you aren't going to crash?
But seriously, the Aerobats are great little trainers (extremely well maintained in-house) and you can learn basic aerobatics if you like. It's mainly been visiting aircraft through the hedge with pilots who simply didn't do the maths on a hot and high day. I think the rare Phoenix accidents have all been on landing - either your usual student drop-in or (on the occasion the much loved Sierra Lima came to grief) following an engine failure in the circuit when the FI just managed to get on to the field.
Try Netherthorpe and enjoy whichever school you use.
24R
I trained with Phoenix at Netherthorpe as well as an IMC and the still CFI does my IMC renewals even though I now fly from a long strip of tarmac 10 nms away. They're a top bunch and the instructors were universally professional, competent and friendly. I recently saw one of my former instructors instructing at SAC and there has been movement in both directions over the years. Other than price I don't think there's anything to choose between the two and Phoenix must be among the cheapest hourly rates in the counrty. Most Phoenix Flyers are social member of SAC (at much lower cost than flying members), which gives them access to the club house, but there was always free tea and coffee (albeit in scummy cups) at Phoenix.
Basically, which school you use will be a personal choice and both are good and both will teach you proper short field technique which you will never learn properly on a long tarmac runway.
Grass field, but underlain by sandy soil, so rarely waterlogged. 24 is 3 deg uphill, so all the water's at the bottom in any event
In my day we used 150s, like real men. None of this 'guarantee to get you over the hedge nancy 130 hp Aerobat' nonsense. Where's the thrill in knowing on every take-off that you aren't going to crash?
But seriously, the Aerobats are great little trainers (extremely well maintained in-house) and you can learn basic aerobatics if you like. It's mainly been visiting aircraft through the hedge with pilots who simply didn't do the maths on a hot and high day. I think the rare Phoenix accidents have all been on landing - either your usual student drop-in or (on the occasion the much loved Sierra Lima came to grief) following an engine failure in the circuit when the FI just managed to get on to the field.
Try Netherthorpe and enjoy whichever school you use.
24R
Avoid imitations
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Yes, but do try to avoid that nice little village to the east if you're climbing out on 06 early on a Sunday morning. Some residents do appreciate a bit of a quiet lie in 
480 m is far too long for proper aircraft. Even 36 /18, too.
480 m is far too long for proper aircraft. Even 36 /18, too.
