LOOP trash mag....and Bob Davy in particular
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Europe
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
So what's the Bobster done with his TVR, is it still running? Jim told me the roof fell off! Wouldn't have thought that'd make any difference, he'd drive round with the roof off in any wx, shades on, etc etc..... 
I assume this isn't the same Bob Davey who flies the Stinson and various gliders and tugs out of Booker? Nice chap, excellent pilot, don't believe he's ever written for anything.
Anyhow, reading this caused me to go and haul that copy of Loop out of the recycling bin (nothing personal Loop - I just recycle virtually everything just because I seem to acquire so much reading matter).
Hawk (and yes I have some (12ish I think) hours on type, no not as an RAF pilot) I thought he was spot on about that aircraft - and although I don't know the JP, it's certainly a breath of fresh air after the Tincano.
Shorts 360 - never flown one of those either, but his opinions seem similar to those of people I know and trust, who have.
Chevvron 2-32c - what was the man actually flying? The aircraft (or at least the couple I've flown) has a standard electric start, not a lawnmower recoil starter as described, getting your head in is a seating angle problem, not a cockpit size issue - whilst I'm only 5ft6", I know 6ft+ pilots who have many happy hours in the Chevvron. Okay, fair point it is slow does require curvature of the earth to get airborne, but if he needed "full power not to sink below the glide" then he was completely misjudging his approaches (the Chevvron with a 17:1 glide ratio thermals pretty well and I think you'd have to be completely inept to fall low on approach). What sort of pilot is also so clumsy as to put his hand through a clearly fabric covered fuselage on first approach to the aircraft. Finally, by far the most irritating characteristics of the Chevvron are the odd control mechanisation and the constant low-ampliture Dutch Roll. Apparently he didn't notice either of those at-all. I really wonder if the chap has actually flown a Chevvron, or if he was, whether he really took any trouble to understand it.
G
Anyhow, reading this caused me to go and haul that copy of Loop out of the recycling bin (nothing personal Loop - I just recycle virtually everything just because I seem to acquire so much reading matter).
Hawk (and yes I have some (12ish I think) hours on type, no not as an RAF pilot) I thought he was spot on about that aircraft - and although I don't know the JP, it's certainly a breath of fresh air after the Tincano.
Shorts 360 - never flown one of those either, but his opinions seem similar to those of people I know and trust, who have.
Chevvron 2-32c - what was the man actually flying? The aircraft (or at least the couple I've flown) has a standard electric start, not a lawnmower recoil starter as described, getting your head in is a seating angle problem, not a cockpit size issue - whilst I'm only 5ft6", I know 6ft+ pilots who have many happy hours in the Chevvron. Okay, fair point it is slow does require curvature of the earth to get airborne, but if he needed "full power not to sink below the glide" then he was completely misjudging his approaches (the Chevvron with a 17:1 glide ratio thermals pretty well and I think you'd have to be completely inept to fall low on approach). What sort of pilot is also so clumsy as to put his hand through a clearly fabric covered fuselage on first approach to the aircraft. Finally, by far the most irritating characteristics of the Chevvron are the odd control mechanisation and the constant low-ampliture Dutch Roll. Apparently he didn't notice either of those at-all. I really wonder if the chap has actually flown a Chevvron, or if he was, whether he really took any trouble to understand it.
G
Put your nails away
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: BERKSHIRE
Posts: 263
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I was refering to the rant from SFCC
After reading the rant from SFCC, I find it amazing that parents would allow their StupidFlippingCrassChild to submit foul mouthed comments on a grown ups forum.
Grow up SFCC.
Grow up SFCC.
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: BERKSHIRE
Posts: 263
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Language!
Bentley Sit, good dog.
I prefer SFCC as Stupid Flipping Crass Child, it has a better ring to it.
Wouldn't want to sink to the intellectually challenged level SFCC the originator of the Anti-Loop rant!
Still feel sorry for his boyfriend though!
Fetch Boy!!
I prefer SFCC as Stupid Flipping Crass Child, it has a better ring to it.
Wouldn't want to sink to the intellectually challenged level SFCC the originator of the Anti-Loop rant!
Still feel sorry for his boyfriend though!
Fetch Boy!!
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 2,410
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
This month's contribution by Bob Davey is limited to having a pop at a great ambassador for GA and the Flying Scholarships for the Disabled, Polly Vacher on account of her wearing an orange flight suit and some epaulettes.
He passes it off as being un-British and not the done thing in the circles that he apparently likes to be a cling-on to but he has sadly not realised that most Brits love people who put themselves out for charitable causes and loathe name droppers and social climbers.
Poor form both by Bob Davey and Loop for letting this get in the magazine.
He passes it off as being un-British and not the done thing in the circles that he apparently likes to be a cling-on to but he has sadly not realised that most Brits love people who put themselves out for charitable causes and loathe name droppers and social climbers.
Poor form both by Bob Davey and Loop for letting this get in the magazine.
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 214
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Interesting to see how many people got wound up by the clear 'low news day' article at the end of Loop this edition, in particular the direct jibe at anyone who would even consider looking like a pilot when they go flying. No matter whether it's there 1st or 1000th flight.
The whole enforced modesty (oxymoron?) bit is quite baffling, changing out of your flying gear the moment your are done? Laughing at someone who is so keen on taking their FIRST flight they decide to turn up looking the part? (even though it might be a little over the top.)
Are some of our more senior aviators out there, Bob included, so self focussed on their status that they feel insecure with someone esle daring to try and even put their first toe in the door of aviation by 'getting into the spirit?'
If anyone is going to turn away the prospective trial lesson punter it's the elite few who are going to make the enjoyment of flight the retreat of those who wear jeans but probably speak very loudly in the club coffee house about how great their aeros sequence was.
The moment someone gets into flying, they will realise the do and don't rules quite quickly and that probably includes when/where to don your flying suit and/or lapels. But they won't ever be taking their second trip if the likes of Bob get to them.
I do hope that an airline captain or Group Captain would treat a C172 'captain' with a friendly camradery, comfortable with their own status and acknowledging their counterparts place in the foundations of aviation. Wasn't the airline captain taught by such a SEP captain in his youth?
Let's hope Bob gets out of his flying suit a little sooner next edition so he can write something that is positive for aviation rather than having a pop at the grass roots.
We're all on the same side Bob.
The whole enforced modesty (oxymoron?) bit is quite baffling, changing out of your flying gear the moment your are done? Laughing at someone who is so keen on taking their FIRST flight they decide to turn up looking the part? (even though it might be a little over the top.)
Are some of our more senior aviators out there, Bob included, so self focussed on their status that they feel insecure with someone esle daring to try and even put their first toe in the door of aviation by 'getting into the spirit?'
If anyone is going to turn away the prospective trial lesson punter it's the elite few who are going to make the enjoyment of flight the retreat of those who wear jeans but probably speak very loudly in the club coffee house about how great their aeros sequence was.
The moment someone gets into flying, they will realise the do and don't rules quite quickly and that probably includes when/where to don your flying suit and/or lapels. But they won't ever be taking their second trip if the likes of Bob get to them.
I do hope that an airline captain or Group Captain would treat a C172 'captain' with a friendly camradery, comfortable with their own status and acknowledging their counterparts place in the foundations of aviation. Wasn't the airline captain taught by such a SEP captain in his youth?
Let's hope Bob gets out of his flying suit a little sooner next edition so he can write something that is positive for aviation rather than having a pop at the grass roots.
We're all on the same side Bob.
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: England
Age: 60
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well I met Bob Davy for the first time last week. I then let him fly my pride and joy. His first time in the type and after a quick briefing from me, he flew it better than me. On the numbers all the time. This included some very close formation flying with a Yak in less than ideal conditions.
I thought he was a top bloke, very professional and very skilful pilot. He didn't "ram it down my throat" that he had thousands of hours under his belt, he just quietly got on with it. In fact I probably learnt more from him in those few hours than I had from many instructors as he does real flying, not just to CPT and back like some pilots I could mention.
I thought he was a top bloke, very professional and very skilful pilot. He didn't "ram it down my throat" that he had thousands of hours under his belt, he just quietly got on with it. In fact I probably learnt more from him in those few hours than I had from many instructors as he does real flying, not just to CPT and back like some pilots I could mention.