Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Non-Airline Forums > Private Flying
Reload this Page >

TSO or non TSO Radio

Wikiposts
Search
Private Flying LAA/BMAA/BGA/BPA The sheer pleasure of flight.

TSO or non TSO Radio

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 5th Oct 2007, 05:38
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
TSO or non TSO Radio

What does TSO mean? If you are building a kit aircraft do you have to fit a TSO radio? If I buy a TSO radio, say an icom I-200, in the US can I fit it in a UK kit aircraft?
one2go is offline  
Old 5th Oct 2007, 10:40
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 47
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
To me TSO means Time Since Overhaul, but I suspect it is not the case.
Cessna 210 Heavy is offline  
Old 5th Oct 2007, 10:52
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Posts: 26,829
Received 276 Likes on 112 Posts
In this context it means Technical Standard Order and means the equipment meets the relevant (US) TSO.

The PFA should be able to tell you whether a US-sourced Icom 200 is also approved as an aeronautical radio station for home built aircraft in the UK.

Last edited by BEagle; 5th Oct 2007 at 11:02.
BEagle is online now  
Old 5th Oct 2007, 12:31
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1,966
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I installed an Icom A200, which I bought heavily discounted from AS&S into the aircraft that I built. Worked a treat, too. Far better than the Micro-Air in my current permit a/c.

I installed a two position toggle switch just in front of the throttle quadrant, toggle up and the box would cycle through the memory. Toggle down and it would flip-flop from s/byto active. Very Gucci!

Stik
stiknruda is offline  
Old 5th Oct 2007, 12:42
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 626
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The IC A-200 is allowed to be fitted in aircraft in the UK - I've got one in the RV. Works very well and is very similar to the King 96/97.

Strange thing is you can't buy one in the UK for UK use because it hasn't got a 'CE' stamp. Apparently, Icom UK didn't want to pay for the basic test (which covers everything, not just aircraft bits or avionics).

There were all sorts of rumours going round about them catching fire and stuff which was all cr@p.

AFE over here used to sell them but only for export! Funny old world....
smarthawke is offline  
Old 5th Oct 2007, 17:23
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: EuroGA.org
Posts: 13,787
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A pity nobody knows the answer.

I think a TSOd piece of avionics is required for an aircraft with an ICAO CofA.

Note that a TSO is an American compliance standard, but AFAIK Europe accepts it.

Homebuilts etc are not bound by any of this - they can screw what they like into their panel. If it is a radio transmitting device then that must comply with other regs, concerning frequency accuracy, interference etc but that doesn't require a TSO.
IO540 is offline  
Old 5th Oct 2007, 19:17
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Here and there. Here at the moment but soon I'll be there.
Posts: 758
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
In FAA land (I presume it's the same for CAA?) Non TSO parts are not approved for certified aircraft, although non-TSO parts can also be approved for use in certified aircraft via the PMA or STC (Supplemental Type Certificate) route.
SkyHawk-N is offline  
Old 5th Oct 2007, 21:10
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just because a radio is TSO in USA, do not presume that it will be ok over here, for example some VAL radios are not approved here in the UK. Call the CAA they have an approved list or will investigate the radio for you, I have the number somewhere if it is needed, but you can get the info from the main CAA number and ask for radio dept. The PFA only approve CAA approved radio's, it is to do with band width transmission i.e the transmission not leaking onto another frequency.

Will.
will5023 is offline  
Old 5th Oct 2007, 22:29
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: East Anglia
Posts: 832
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The IC A-200 is allowed to be fitted in aircraft in the UK - I've got one in the RV. Works very well and is very similar to the King 96/97.
Strange thing is you can't buy one in the UK for UK use because it hasn't got a 'CE' stamp. Apparently, Icom UK didn't want to pay for the basic test (which covers everything, not just aircraft bits or avionics).
Harry M sells the ICOM A-200 as I bought one 6 months ago. Turns out I may not need it so it could be for sale, unused and unopened with all the fittings. pm if you are interested.
It is non TSO so can only go in a homebuilt/PFA permit.
ZA
Zulu Alpha is offline  
Old 6th Oct 2007, 01:23
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 11 GROUP
Age: 77
Posts: 1,346
Likes: 0
Received 79 Likes on 27 Posts
Tso (icom)

I am looking for something like that !! (how do we proceed) !!
I do not think the radio's are of a lesser quality for not being tso'd
POBJOY is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.