Ballpark cost for the PPL
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To get back to the original question
I reckon my PPL is going to cost me around £9k->10k. That's all in, books, headset, whizz wheel, tests, tuition, hire everything.
I've not exactly bean counted it or totted up everything and it's only a gut feel. I could've done it cheaper in a cheaper aircraft but I like what I fly
This is roughly 45 hours dual @ 180 ph (yeah, it's not all dual but there's contingency for other stuff like landing fees) = £8100
Books \ tests \ RT Tuition = £600
Headset \ whizz wheel \ pilots bag \ kneeboards etc = £400 (thanks ebay)
I have yet to pay for check ride test, radio license, ppl license (if I ever get there) so I'd budget another £500 for that.
PPL all in for £6k ? You need to pass in record time and have some fairly cheap plane hire. I think I'll have my check ride done by 45 hours - but if I don't then there's probably another grand to go on there.
I've not exactly bean counted it or totted up everything and it's only a gut feel. I could've done it cheaper in a cheaper aircraft but I like what I fly
This is roughly 45 hours dual @ 180 ph (yeah, it's not all dual but there's contingency for other stuff like landing fees) = £8100
Books \ tests \ RT Tuition = £600
Headset \ whizz wheel \ pilots bag \ kneeboards etc = £400 (thanks ebay)
I have yet to pay for check ride test, radio license, ppl license (if I ever get there) so I'd budget another £500 for that.
PPL all in for £6k ? You need to pass in record time and have some fairly cheap plane hire. I think I'll have my check ride done by 45 hours - but if I don't then there's probably another grand to go on there.
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Can only reiterate Paul , do not pay 180ph for a ppl unless you got money to burn , it doesnt make any sense . for the amount your willing to pay you could have 73 hours in a pa38 at 110 per hour , get your books and crp5 on ebay save money all over the place , but 180 ph for flying lessons wow! I didnt pay that at ringway
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£180 per hour for PPL
Have a look at this http://www.comed.co.uk/c172sp_packages.htm All of this for less than £6.5k
45 hours flying instruction in our well equipped Cessna 172SP
All landing fees incurred during the 45 hours except touch and go fees in the circuit
Groundschool for all pre-flight and post flight briefs and de-briefs
First attempt at each of the six PPL examinations
Starter pack which includes logbook, checklist, kneeboard and book 1 of the series of books required to learn to fly
And its in a new C172SP with G1000.
Have a look at this http://www.comed.co.uk/c172sp_packages.htm All of this for less than £6.5k45 hours flying instruction in our well equipped Cessna 172SP
All landing fees incurred during the 45 hours except touch and go fees in the circuit
Groundschool for all pre-flight and post flight briefs and de-briefs
First attempt at each of the six PPL examinations
Starter pack which includes logbook, checklist, kneeboard and book 1 of the series of books required to learn to fly
And its in a new C172SP with G1000.
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£180 per hour for PPL Have a look at this http://www.comed.co.uk/c172sp_packages.htm All of this for less than £6.5k
Have a look at this http://www.comed.co.uk/c172sp_packages.htm All of this for less than £6.5k
Dan saf £160ph rental & £20ph instructor seems to be the going rate....
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Lydd, where I did my JAR PPL & IMC, is pretty far south by UK standards and they charge £140 dual for a 152 as you can see here.
There's a page here on their web site that describes their intensive course from which you can extract quite a handy list of all the individual items that any PPL student will need to budget for.
There's a page here on their web site that describes their intensive course from which you can extract quite a handy list of all the individual items that any PPL student will need to budget for.
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Yep
Yep, you can cut costs down a bit in a C152. I started down this route but just found the PA28 more comfortable and a bit more enjoyable to learn in.
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I did mine in 45 hrs but this was because I took leave from work and flew two or three hours a day, was lucky with the weather and aircraft availability etc etc . IMHO you will always do it on less hours if you are flying that way whereas once per week will take you longer but maybe thats me .
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The way the block discounts work is that the quoted block, say £5000, buys you the standard 45 hrs which is the legal minimum for a JAA PPL.
If you then take 60 hours, you will pay the £5000 for the block, plus the hourly rate for the next 15 hours.
Plus landing fees, exam fees, books, bits and bobs, etc.
Block bookings may be tempting but schools go bust regularly and you invariably lose any un-flown entitlement at that point. The funds are not held in escrow but are used to keep the school afloat, and are perceived to increase student commitment to finishing the course.
If somebody recently did a JAA PPL for £4000 all in, I would like to see a breakdown.
If you then take 60 hours, you will pay the £5000 for the block, plus the hourly rate for the next 15 hours.
Plus landing fees, exam fees, books, bits and bobs, etc.
Block bookings may be tempting but schools go bust regularly and you invariably lose any un-flown entitlement at that point. The funds are not held in escrow but are used to keep the school afloat, and are perceived to increase student commitment to finishing the course.
If somebody recently did a JAA PPL for £4000 all in, I would like to see a breakdown.
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Lecicester Aero Club
Dual £112 per hour
Solo £92 per hour
Further discount for block payments
Exams are free. I gave him my Thom books and Whizz Wheel.
45:20 to finish. A bit over 4 grand according to my calculations and no flights or accommodation to pay for and a good old fashioned JAA PPL at the end of it.
I realise it makes a fair comparison against the FAA Holy Grail and should not be discussed. But it is easy enough for someone committed to doing a PPL in the UK
Dual £112 per hour
Solo £92 per hour
Further discount for block payments
Exams are free. I gave him my Thom books and Whizz Wheel.
45:20 to finish. A bit over 4 grand according to my calculations and no flights or accommodation to pay for and a good old fashioned JAA PPL at the end of it.
I realise it makes a fair comparison against the FAA Holy Grail and should not be discussed. But it is easy enough for someone committed to doing a PPL in the UK
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£112 per hour x 45hrs comes to more than £4000........
Some of it might be at £92/hour but most schools charge the full dual rate on pre-PPL solos because the student is flying on the instructor's license.
The FAA route is not relevant to this; it would not much cheaper than £4000 by the time one has counted some digs in the USA, etc etc etc.
The UK average for a PPL is no doubt over £8000.
Some of it might be at £92/hour but most schools charge the full dual rate on pre-PPL solos because the student is flying on the instructor's license.
The FAA route is not relevant to this; it would not much cheaper than £4000 by the time one has counted some digs in the USA, etc etc etc.
The UK average for a PPL is no doubt over £8000.
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some schools may charge the full dual rate. Leicester Aero CLUB does not. I am not arguing that it could not cost £8k or even £10k at some UK SCHOOLS. But I am also pointing out that it can be done a lot cheaper.
For gods sake IO just for once accept that the UK training scene might have a shred of decency somewhere!!!!!
For gods sake IO just for once accept that the UK training scene might have a shred of decency somewhere!!!!!
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As to my previous post I recomend Leicester nice place gd instructors and cheap pity prices have gone up £2 messes up my £1.50/min solol rate oh well. They have a 172 which is £20 more/hr than the 152.
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112 x 35 = 3920
92 x 10 = 920
Total for PPL = £4840...which is excellent, but nearer £5000 than £4000. Even with the figures given, I can't see how you could get it for £4000.
Most schools charge the dual rate for solo student flying since the instructor gets paid while supervising student solo flying, which seems to me perfectly fair. In fact, I've never heard of it being done any other way, though I'm not saying it isn't. But Leicester is certainly unusual in this.
92 x 10 = 920
Total for PPL = £4840...which is excellent, but nearer £5000 than £4000. Even with the figures given, I can't see how you could get it for £4000.
Most schools charge the dual rate for solo student flying since the instructor gets paid while supervising student solo flying, which seems to me perfectly fair. In fact, I've never heard of it being done any other way, though I'm not saying it isn't. But Leicester is certainly unusual in this.
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For gods sake I never said £4000 IO540 did. I said it was something over 4000.
And you are forgetting the club give a discount for block payment.
Either way we are arguing symantics here, it is still not £8 grand. It is POSSIBLE to do a PPL for much less than the figures being quoted here was all I was saying.
Sometimes the urge people have to argue over trivial **** on these forums amazes me.
And you are forgetting the club give a discount for block payment.
Either way we are arguing symantics here, it is still not £8 grand. It is POSSIBLE to do a PPL for much less than the figures being quoted here was all I was saying.
Sometimes the urge people have to argue over trivial **** on these forums amazes me.
My mate just did his PPL at Leicester for just over 4 grand.......