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Old 5th June 2007 | 14:43
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I think PPL/IR have done most of the work to kick off the most recent movements, by getting in at the right places.

However, I still believe that the ultimate "lubricant" for a more accessible private IR has been the stampede to the FAA option.
Yep, exactly right.

Moreover, as someone else commented, it is to AOPAs shame (and for all I know some or all of the other representative bodies) that they seem to find it difficult to work with each other, and for this reason GA in all its forms have long been seen as ineffective lobbyists.

However, things maybe are changing. I commented some while ago that AOPA's web site was simply awful. They have now changed their web site and when I have 5 minutes I shall look to see with interest whether I might now feel compelled to join after many years of not renewing my membership.
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Old 5th June 2007 | 14:52
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Let me also make it perfectly clear, AOPA US do not support UK GA in any shape or form. For all the benefit you get from a US based organisation you might as well join the Florida branch of the evangelist church.
I think Bose has it exactly right so why .. .. ..


Join The Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association UK (AOPA UK) today along with over 400,000 members in 50 countries, it is the largest association for pilots in the world
does AOPA UKs very first line on their web site suggest otherwise?

I have no idea how many UK members they have, but whatever number it is be proud. If you represent UK pilots say so and dont make out you are something you clearly are not.
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Old 5th June 2007 | 15:05
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cjboy

I think you may have taken my comments a little to literally.

AOPA UK "sells" its subs on the basis it is "the voice of GA" - among other things, I suspect members expect AOPA will look out for their interests.

I fully appreciate that some of those who work for AOPA may get paid little or nothing.

The point remains that if you subscribe to a body that purports to represent your interests it is not unreasonable to expect that is exactly what they will do - and if they are fortunate enough, and indeed there are those kind enough to give of their time freely, to those I am indeed grateful.
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Old 5th June 2007 | 17:54
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Originally Posted by cjboy
Surely AOPA staff only get paid by their members, via the subscriptions, if they get paid at all! It is for the members to decide whether it's worth paying for; clearly some do not and therefore don't join.

If you don't join you can hardly complain! He who pays the piper calls the tune!
Exactly so. There are an awful lot of whingers in UK GA and very very few people who actually get off their arses and do anything to try and better things. (Some of them post here and/or on FLYER)

Equally there are, sadly, quite a lot of people who are better off financially because of the actions of AOPA and others but who only frequent these bulletin boards to grizzle about AOPA and others and delight in telling everyone how they don't pay for any of the benefits.
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