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Did anyone see chamblis smash his prop up in the Red Bull Air Race???
He almost hit a Cessna. Then he admitted on international TV he was taxiing without paying attention and with no S turns. And to put the cherry on top he said
"It's only a prop, I have a prop sponsor what do do I care. it's like changing a tire"
Fancy saying all that on TV.
He almost hit a Cessna. Then he admitted on international TV he was taxiing without paying attention and with no S turns. And to put the cherry on top he said
"It's only a prop, I have a prop sponsor what do do I care. it's like changing a tire"
Fancy saying all that on TV.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBYrYjNi53M
Oops! I suppose doing that was better than running into the back of the Cessna though. Still pretty embarrassing for one of the world's best aerobatics pilots to do that!
Oops! I suppose doing that was better than running into the back of the Cessna though. Still pretty embarrassing for one of the world's best aerobatics pilots to do that!
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That was one of the most arrogant bits of nonsense I've ever heard on T.V. It's blatantly obvious they've not had any "meedja" training.
As for just changing a prop after that. Oh yeah? He's obviously never heard of shock loading an engine. That engine went from a pretty high RPM, to zero in double quick time. I wouldn't want to fly it until someone had looked inside.
Wonderful pilot, sh*te attitude. I expected better.
He's obviously embarrased, but you don't make things better sounding like a spoilt brat.
As for just changing a prop after that. Oh yeah? He's obviously never heard of shock loading an engine. That engine went from a pretty high RPM, to zero in double quick time. I wouldn't want to fly it until someone had looked inside.
Wonderful pilot, sh*te attitude. I expected better.
He's obviously embarrased, but you don't make things better sounding like a spoilt brat.
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He's an experienced enough guy to realise that "being in a rush" is when things go wrong.
Mistakes happen, but there's no point making up excuses about it, especially when a few million people have seen you stuff up.
I'm just glad most of my flights haven't been televised!
Mistakes happen, but there's no point making up excuses about it, especially when a few million people have seen you stuff up.
I'm just glad most of my flights haven't been televised!
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It does suprise me how far somebody can get into aviation without knowing some really basic things. Still, I suppose that if you have never had anything to do with maintenance, it's a fair thing to know nothing about engine shock loading etc.
I know of a case (saw the damage myself) where a self fly hire renter went off with the towbar attached, took a chunk out of the prop, chucked the towbar away, went for a flight, came back and said nothing.
The missing chunk was about 20x20mm - must have vibrated "noticeably".
I know of a case (saw the damage myself) where a self fly hire renter went off with the towbar attached, took a chunk out of the prop, chucked the towbar away, went for a flight, came back and said nothing.
The missing chunk was about 20x20mm - must have vibrated "noticeably".
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That's nothing - I know of one guy who went flying with a two foot tear from the leading edge halfway towards the rear of his wing after clobbering a taxiway sign prior to take off. The damage was clearly visible for all to see afterwards and the impact must've yawed the aircraft drastically - still he went flying, put the keys away after landing and said nothing!
As for Chamblis.... he just seemed embarrassed and did that classic yanky thing of pretending it was all "no-sweat". I am sure we can all prove our knowledge of engines by refraining from slagging the guy off for having a bad day tho?
VFE.
As for Chamblis.... he just seemed embarrassed and did that classic yanky thing of pretending it was all "no-sweat". I am sure we can all prove our knowledge of engines by refraining from slagging the guy off for having a bad day tho?
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Yes but he had a bad day because he did not follow the basics. It was totally avoidable and his attitude sucked just because it is not his money replacing the prop. Could you imagine if had plowed in to the Cessna? some poor bugger would have had their spamcan written off because someone was not concerntrating.
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And you'd be spot-on the ball following 1 min 40 secs of high-G manouvres being watched by over a million? Blimey, it get's a bit anal here sometimes doesn't it? Yes, he seemed arrogant but in fairness, he was probably still recovering from the shock of wrecking a prop and the fact he'd totally blown his session which obviously distracted him seeing as that was why he was there afterall! Next you'll be banging on about setting a bad example to aviators across the globe...
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My comments weren't based on this clip, rather on the UK TV feed, where he was interviewed by Jodie Kidd.
He may have been annoyed at making a stupid mistake, but it doesn't mean you have to come across as a tw*t.
I doubt his comments would be taken seriously by anyone with more than 10% of their brain working, but his comments showed that it was all caused by rushing, not following normal procedures (s turns when you can't see where you're going.)
Again all this is blatantly obvious, but his comment about not caring as he has a prop sponsor, was daft. If I was his sponsor, I'd be pretty annoyed at his attitude towards them.
He's obviously an incredibly talented pilot, but I would have expected better airmanship of someone so experienced.
He may have been annoyed at making a stupid mistake, but it doesn't mean you have to come across as a tw*t.
I doubt his comments would be taken seriously by anyone with more than 10% of their brain working, but his comments showed that it was all caused by rushing, not following normal procedures (s turns when you can't see where you're going.)
Again all this is blatantly obvious, but his comment about not caring as he has a prop sponsor, was daft. If I was his sponsor, I'd be pretty annoyed at his attitude towards them.
He's obviously an incredibly talented pilot, but I would have expected better airmanship of someone so experienced.
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I'm with VFE on this one - there does seem to be a lot of holier-than-though pontificating going on. Ground handling of high-performance aerobatic tail draggers is a tricky business at the best of times, and I know some of the best in the business who have had incidents of this type - there are those that have, and there are those that will. Of course, if you spend your life flying nothing but tricycle spamcans, then you won't have to worry - your main concern should be suffering a premature death from boredom 
From the footage in the link above, he was clearly hacked off at screwing up, and even more hacked off at having a camera stuffed in his face. The TV coverage is designed for the masses - don't expect a self-critique to AAIB standards in a 30 second sound-bite.
From the footage in the link above, he was clearly hacked off at screwing up, and even more hacked off at having a camera stuffed in his face. The TV coverage is designed for the masses - don't expect a self-critique to AAIB standards in a 30 second sound-bite.
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I have a little experience of tail draggers with a fair few horse power. I'm not that fussed about other's opinions , but this wasn't exactly Chamblis' finest hour.
His comments were ill thought out, but honest. They came across as incredibly arrogant. He screwed it up, as all of us do at some point, but I don't do it in front of a TV crew.
I've never stood an aircraft on it's nose because I wasn't looking where I was going. That isn't to say I won't in the future, that wasn't the problem.
I'm not expecting an adrenaline charged ex-fighter jock who's just bruised his ego and a/c in front of millions to be an ambassador to the UN, but his comments were over the top even given this situation.
Fact is, he came across as a muppet and I have a huge amount of respect for all the Red Bull guy's. What do you think the general populace would think of that?
His comments were ill thought out, but honest. They came across as incredibly arrogant. He screwed it up, as all of us do at some point, but I don't do it in front of a TV crew.
I've never stood an aircraft on it's nose because I wasn't looking where I was going. That isn't to say I won't in the future, that wasn't the problem.
I'm not expecting an adrenaline charged ex-fighter jock who's just bruised his ego and a/c in front of millions to be an ambassador to the UN, but his comments were over the top even given this situation.
Fact is, he came across as a muppet and I have a huge amount of respect for all the Red Bull guy's. What do you think the general populace would think of that?
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I am with you say again.
Ther ei sno doubt in Chamblis or the other pilots talent. It is purley his fippant attitude and comments that have donehim a wrongun. It is a shame the Jodie Kid interview isn't on your tube yet, at least everyone will see what we are on about.
Ther ei sno doubt in Chamblis or the other pilots talent. It is purley his fippant attitude and comments that have donehim a wrongun. It is a shame the Jodie Kid interview isn't on your tube yet, at least everyone will see what we are on about.
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Ther ei sno doubt in Chamblis or the other pilots talent. It is purley his fippant attitude and comments that have donehim a wrongun. It is a shame the Jodie Kid interview isn't on your tube yet, at least everyone will see what we are on about.
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According to a couple of friends who work for the series the call over the radio was: 'Kirby, STOP!'. And he did.....
Hacked off at his performance and taxying too fast without looking out.
Friends have left for Istanbul today but I'll ask them when they are back whether the prop was replaced or the engine shock-load inspection carried out. I think you'll find the props are Hartzell and made of metal.
If any propeller has to come off for repair or replacement following a ground strike or sudden stoppage, Lycoming consider the shock load inspection mandatory.
And given the snap and sustained G they subject the aircraft too, me thinks the engine came out for a look-see.
Wait for Monument Valley when a pylon is hit follwing pilot black-out due to a sustained 10G or so coming rounfd the corner. He came too when the pylon reduced the G....
Hacked off at his performance and taxying too fast without looking out.
Friends have left for Istanbul today but I'll ask them when they are back whether the prop was replaced or the engine shock-load inspection carried out. I think you'll find the props are Hartzell and made of metal.
If any propeller has to come off for repair or replacement following a ground strike or sudden stoppage, Lycoming consider the shock load inspection mandatory.
And given the snap and sustained G they subject the aircraft too, me thinks the engine came out for a look-see.
Wait for Monument Valley when a pylon is hit follwing pilot black-out due to a sustained 10G or so coming rounfd the corner. He came too when the pylon reduced the G....
