When am I P2 and when am I passenger?

[michaelthewannabe]

logging of landings. does it really matter?

I fly big aeroplanes now as well as little ones but even if the captain does the take off and landing i still put it in my book as 1 take off and 1 landing.

I cant see how it makes a big deal of difference to be honest.

I guess that would be because you're logging P2, in an aircraft where you're legally permitted to do so (i.e. multi-crew CoA).

As many others have pointed out, you can't log P2 in a typical SEP, so the situation is different.

[False Capture]

Just bounce it down the runway three times and that should cover you for 90 days.

On a more serious note, at the start of your log book there's a declaration to say you "certify that the information on this and the preceding pages is accurate to the best of my knowledge". So cheating isn't allowed.

[pulse1]

Mike Cross,

I asked Jinkster

I would be interested to know how you log that

Would you please explain to me how, as a PPL, I should know how Jinkster logs flying time.

Thank you for quoting the ANO but, important as I'm sure Jinkster is, it doesn't seem to tell me what I asked him/her.

It would be helpful if you actually read what people say before being so quick to assume their ignorance, particularly on a public forum.

[Mike Cross]

Apologies if I've offended you.

Jinkster's post was pretty straightforward, suggesting that two pilots could log part of the flight each. Your post seemed to me to indicate that you wanted to know how that should be logged.

E.g. How do you enter From/To and how do you indicate whether you did the landing or not.

I think my answer indicated a way of doing that.

If you didn't want anyone other than Jinkster to answer maybe you should have asked the question in a PM to him rather than on a public forum. No offence intended.

Mike

[englishal]

So long as there is no prohibition in the POH from what seat you fly from, then you can fly from any. When building some time for my CPL the instructor used to make me go out and fly from the RHS as it was valuable experience for when / if I was going to do the FI ratings. Bit strange to start with but it soon becomes natural (even IFR).

Regarding logging P2 time - in a single pilot aeroplane there are very few times this is possible - essentially under JAR impossible, so don't even bother. Me and my mates often "crew change" in mid air, if I take off and do the first half then I'll log the departure airport and times / conditions and then note in the comments that we swapped. If he lands I leave my "number of landings" blank and explain in the notes.

[Three Yellows]

phoneman,

With the agreement of the CAA, you can claim P2 time in a (usually) single pilot aeroplane, if you are making a serious contribution to the flight. However I'm not sure how much convincing they will need if you are P2 on a C152 from Waltham to Wycombe and back.

Read up on it in LASORS which you can download for free here http://www.caa.co.uk/application.asp...detail&id=1591

[An Artificial Member]

Just a note regarding what you put in the 'FROM' column in your log book when you take command during the flight, what I did was to put the words 'IN FLIGHT' in that column and the arrival airport in the 'TO' column, and vice versa. This presented no problem when I sent my logbook off to Gatwick for the inclusion of my IR on my licence, as my IR training involved many gymnastic airborne manouveres swapping from front seat to back seat !!

AM

[ringo_1]

I think we're missing the point here!
The original poster, it seems to me, was under the impression that the seat you're sitting in defines what roll you take. I was simply pointing out that this wasn't the case.