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Old 1st Apr 2007, 20:39
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Photographing plane spotters

Is it legal to take telephone lens photos of plane spotters, optionally with their car number plates, and put the information on some website? Moreover, is it OK to claim copyright on the photos?

I am sure you all know exactly why I am asking the question
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For what purpose ? a true aviation enthusiast/plane spotter does no harm.
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Sounds bit kinky, if you ask me.......
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I am sure you all know exactly why I am asking the question
I'm not sure I do.
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Old 1st Apr 2007, 21:17
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telephone lens photos
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I flew into Duxford last week and a crowd of cheeky school-girls all took snaps and then shouted saucy things at me as I left the aircraft to pay my landing fee (still at the bloody shop where you stand in a queue behind a load of very s l o w pensioners....) which made a change .

To be honest, I thought it rather flattering....(not the queue behind the pensioners, mind) live and let live
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Yup - mostly harmless, apart from the odd freak who delights in complaining to the CAA about reg-exempt paint schemes.

The CAA are quite happy to put your details on a public website...
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I agree it's harmless but somehow I think the spotters wouldn't be happy about what I suggested
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As long as the subject is in a public place then there's not much reason why not. And photos taken in less than public places never seems to stop the paparazzi from selling to the highest bidder.

Copyright of a photograph resides with whoever takes the photograph unless the is some sort of contract in place which says otherwise.

So you can do with the photos whatever you wish.

Within the bounds of what the ANO dictacts about PPL and CPL privileges of course.
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I'm off to Duxford !
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Me too!!! Just off to get a hair cut and a new flying suit first.
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Old 2nd Apr 2007, 09:43
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I agree it's harmless but somehow I think the spotters wouldn't be happy about what I suggested
What colour is the sky in your world ?
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I will admit to feeling a slight irritation at all those telephoto lenses, especially when I trip over the chocks or something during pre-flight. But individually they seem to be perfectly nice people.

That's the problem I think. IO540's idea would fall at the hurdle of indvading their privacy or something. After all, they are just harmless people admiring the work of others who they look up to (not sure about that bit). IO540's plan would be seen as personally malicious, wheras their constant clicking away is seen as impersonal (photographing a plane, not the owner) and therefore innocent.

We're stuck with it. What we need to do is get airfield owners to charge a modest amount (£5/day say) for a permit and put the result toward lowering our landing fees. Good business for the cafe, keeps the spotters under control in a compound, subsidises flying which means more aircraft to spot. It works on the railway so why not here?
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Old 2nd Apr 2007, 13:20
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Ok I'll bite! The vast majority are harmless that's true. However, a friend of mine used pictures of HIS aircraft with him behind the controls on HIS own website, of course the pics were found on airliners.net, within days the photographer found out and started legal action for breach of copyright. Whilst he may be legally in the right I cant help but think... TOS@#r

He came into our club house, uninvited, took the pics of our aircraft then complained when we tried to use them.
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Old 2nd Apr 2007, 16:10
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....Which just goes to show there is a market for pictures of aircraft - but for pictures of a bloke wearing an anorak and driving an old Mondeo ...I don't think so.
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the copyright laws alter from country to country, as I see it here in the UK
in public, there's no problem photographing anyone, as long as >
and that the photographer doesn't sell them, if sold, the person being photographed should sign a " model release " form, giving you the rights.
it is a bit of a mine field, "god" being the supplier of the light used, ie the sun
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I was photographed recently by one of those yellow cameras by the side of the road. Do the copyright laws allow me to prevent them making a profit from using my picture without permission...........
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Old 2nd Apr 2007, 18:29
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You only need a model release if the photo is used for commercial purposes and the person in it can be clearly recognized. For editorial use no release is needed.
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Old 2nd Apr 2007, 19:09
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Cracking Bose X
Hope no yellow boxes along the Spanhoe rwy
IO540 - You're kidding right
Most pilots want a decent photo of them in the plane. If you bounce an arrival it's hard to see that in one 750th of a second in a still - unless you did it in a "Heavy" and burned lots of rubber.
Okay, I'm not a spotter but use images for commercial purposes, but the times I have sent images by e-mail or even posted discs around the world at my expense, buckshee..............
I'm waiting for a friend who supplies the same aviation library to get some good shots of me in the plane.
There's one I really like of me flying one plane on one of the opposition's www. and I sure ain't paying for it
Just got to be very careful to get parental approval for images of offspring apart from that, the camera only captures what the eye sees and records.
So IO540, is your plane on the G-INFO link If not let me know what, when and where and provided it's a nice sunny day.................snap!
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