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Old 16th Sep 2017, 23:04
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Originally Posted by oldboldpilots
I have a TB20 listed as 1400kg and I have received an invoice for the leg to Northern Holland on the way to Hamburg. It was a VFR flight across the North Sea. The charge is 12.91euro which is neither here nor there, but I will contest it.
Did you land in "North Holland"?
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 07:30
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Originally Posted by bookworm
Did you land in "North Holland"?
YES, landed at EHGG Groningen / Eelde airport and cleared customs. Stayed overnight due to bad weather, paid airport and parking fees. continued onto Eetersen/Heist, grass airfield west of Hamburg international. Returned 4 days later direct to Gamston Retford UK
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Originally Posted by BackPacker
OBP,

At what airfield did you land (or depart) in NL. Was this EHAM, EHRD, EHBK or EHGG by any chance?

In that case you've not been invoiced for "en-route charges" (for which VFR and IFR below a certain weight is exempt) but you've been invoiced for "terminal charges". Which is really Eurocontrol purely acting as the debt collector for LVNL - the local ATC at these fields.

And I'm not sure, but I think Eurocontrol also acts as the debt collector for the German civil ATC (Bundesluftsomething). So the charge may also be a "terminal charge" for that end of the flight.
EHGG the charge was listed as terminal charges but we did pay airport fees at Eelde, please see previous reply.
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 08:24
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Your landing fee at EHGG consists of at least three separate items:
- Landing fees and parking fees. These go to the airport itself.
- Handling fees. These go to the handing agent.
- ATC charges. These go to ATC.

You've paid the first two at EHGG direct. The third one is now invoiced via Eurocontrol.

Here's the link explaining how this works. As others said, as far as Terminal Charges are concerned, Eurocontrol just acts as the debt collector.
https://www.eurocontrol.int/articles...ates-and-ansps

(And I was mistaken in my earlier post. The German ATC provider does NOT use Eurocontrol for Terminal Charges.)
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 08:41
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Originally Posted by BackPacker
Your landing fee at EHGG consists of at least three separate items:
- Landing fees and parking fees. These go to the airport itself.
- Handling fees. These go to the handing agent.
- ATC charges. These go to ATC.

You've paid the first two at EHGG direct. The third one is now invoiced via Eurocontrol.

Here's the link explaining how this works. As others said, as far as Terminal Charges are concerned, Eurocontrol just acts as the debt collector.
https://www.eurocontrol.int/articles...ates-and-ansps

(And I was mistaken in my earlier post. The German ATC provider does NOT use Eurocontrol for Terminal Charges.)
Thanks for clearing the matter up, I will expect to receive these again on my next trip.
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 12:46
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It may take a while (1 month or more) for the bill to appear though.

This is always a surprise to flight schools/clubs when members take the plane abroad. They've got to invoice those members sometimes months after the trip.
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 15:00
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continued onto Eetersen/Heist
Probably meaning EDHE Ütersen/Heist. None better than Brits at disrespecting/clobbering up foreign culture/naming
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did it from memory, pehaps time to get a new memory
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 13:07
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Hm. Admittedly my continental brain shows similar phenomena. There are some tricks, though.
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