Flight to Morocco
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Flight to Morocco
I am thinking about flying to Marrakesh this year in August (yes I know it will be particularly hot then!!). I would be interested to hear from anyone who has flown in Morocco and especially to Marrakesh for any information, experiences etc.
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Done that a few times, have a look at this old post
Only thing to add would be avoid GMTN (Tetouan), a right royal pain in the a** and this rubbish dump of a place isn't worth going anyway.
Only thing to add would be avoid GMTN (Tetouan), a right royal pain in the a** and this rubbish dump of a place isn't worth going anyway.
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Mike, will you be flying your own (or club) a/c or be renting in southern Spain ? In case of the latter, Aerodynamics and AFAIK Fly-in-Spain provide them. If not, let me know, should be able to help.
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anyway i would recommend you get in contact with Fly-In-Spain, as they are specializing in flights to Marocco and can provide you with some help
http://www.fly-in-international.com/...o.php?navid=16
http://www.fly-in-international.com/...o.php?navid=16
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I fly a citation in Morroco, albeit IFR but i would strongly suggest that you get handling if its not already mandatory.
Tangiers is worth a look, they have an aero club, avgas and probably the best bazars in north africa. Its the northern most airfield in Morroco
Also have lots of small denomination notes handy to grease the wheels of industry
Tangiers is worth a look, they have an aero club, avgas and probably the best bazars in north africa. Its the northern most airfield in Morroco
Also have lots of small denomination notes handy to grease the wheels of industry
Did Morocco last September, visiting Tanger, Marrakech, Fez, then Tetouan.
Current VFR charts are the 1996
edition US "TPC" charts. Pooleys sell them, I think Transair do too. The airspace is well out of date though, but the info is available at the Tanger Flight planning office. The Jepp S Spain chart covers down to Tanger, my recommendation would be to go there 1st, and spend an hour in flight planning, the guys there are really helpful.
Flightplans are mandatory, and you are expected to fly standard VFR routes via VRP's - few of which are marked on the TPC charts but all are available from Tanger. Strangely, a lot of the VRP's seem to be in restricted areas, but apparently they are nearly always inactive.
Tanger to Marrakech the VRP's are Tanger-IBDIR-TIFLET-LEMDI-NEKTI-MAK-Marrakech. Marrakeck to Fez was back to TIFLET then MEKNES-SAISS(Fez). Fez to Tetouan via the Atlas mountains was SAISS-Dar Zwitna-DORDRA-Tetouan. Can provide coordinates for all the VRP's if they'd be helpful, but suggest you get the TPC charts 1st.
Each of the 4 airfields we visited had fuel, though the fuel at Tetouan is hand-pumped from a 45 gallon can. Payment invariably had to be in cash, but they would only accept Euros, and never had any change We withdrew a huge wedge of local dosh (Dirhams) at Tanger to pay for fuel etc, but nobody but the Souk's would take it
Three of airfields were extremely friendly; Marrakech was the exception, but they were courteous enough (just). Didn't have any problems whatsoever with officialdom, though you can expect to be filling immigration/customs forms in triplicate at each destination - even for internal flights.
Of all the places we went, Fez was by far the most interesting. If you go to the Medina there do take a guide or you will get lost. It is possible to wander around the Medina's at Tanger and Marrakech (both of which are smaller) without getting too lost.
Once south of Tanger, the scenery is stunning, particularly in the Atlas mountains. A fabulous flying destination IMHO
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Current VFR charts are the 1996
edition US "TPC" charts. Pooleys sell them, I think Transair do too. The airspace is well out of date though, but the info is available at the Tanger Flight planning office. The Jepp S Spain chart covers down to Tanger, my recommendation would be to go there 1st, and spend an hour in flight planning, the guys there are really helpful.Flightplans are mandatory, and you are expected to fly standard VFR routes via VRP's - few of which are marked on the TPC charts but all are available from Tanger. Strangely, a lot of the VRP's seem to be in restricted areas, but apparently they are nearly always inactive.
Tanger to Marrakech the VRP's are Tanger-IBDIR-TIFLET-LEMDI-NEKTI-MAK-Marrakech. Marrakeck to Fez was back to TIFLET then MEKNES-SAISS(Fez). Fez to Tetouan via the Atlas mountains was SAISS-Dar Zwitna-DORDRA-Tetouan. Can provide coordinates for all the VRP's if they'd be helpful, but suggest you get the TPC charts 1st.
Each of the 4 airfields we visited had fuel, though the fuel at Tetouan is hand-pumped from a 45 gallon can. Payment invariably had to be in cash, but they would only accept Euros, and never had any change
We withdrew a huge wedge of local dosh (Dirhams) at Tanger to pay for fuel etc, but nobody but the Souk's would take itThree of airfields were extremely friendly; Marrakech was the exception, but they were courteous enough (just). Didn't have any problems whatsoever with officialdom, though you can expect to be filling immigration/customs forms in triplicate at each destination - even for internal flights.
Of all the places we went, Fez was by far the most interesting. If you go to the Medina there do take a guide or you will get lost. It is possible to wander around the Medina's at Tanger and Marrakech (both of which are smaller) without getting too lost.
Once south of Tanger, the scenery is stunning, particularly in the Atlas mountains. A fabulous flying destination IMHO
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The traditional way for the 3rd world (like Greece 
) where there are no VFR charts, is the U.S. TPC or ONC charts. These were last updated c. 1998 and the only CAS they contain are the danger areas (out of date of course).
Then buy the Jepp IFR (airways) charts and transpose the CAS shapes from them onto the ONC charts. Or you can do it from Navbox; it shows a bit of Morroco.
Actually in this case you can get Jepp "VFR/GPS" charts all the way to the end of Spain, so there is only Morroco left to do.
) where there are no VFR charts, is the U.S. TPC or ONC charts. These were last updated c. 1998 and the only CAS they contain are the danger areas (out of date of course).Then buy the Jepp IFR (airways) charts and transpose the CAS shapes from them onto the ONC charts. Or you can do it from Navbox; it shows a bit of Morroco.
Actually in this case you can get Jepp "VFR/GPS" charts all the way to the end of Spain, so there is only Morroco left to do.
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TPC and ONC are American US Air Force aviation charts, which as far as I know are no longer updated, but are still available.
CAS is controlled airspace, which for VFR is Class D,C,B,A
CAS is controlled airspace, which for VFR is Class D,C,B,A
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I flew VFR around Morocco in September, pretty straightforward. For maps I just brought a road map and marked up the VFR reporting points for each leg, using the charts in each airport's planning office. I also took digi photos of these maps for planning. Pm me if you want a list of VFR points coordinates and the map photos.
Marrakech was disappointing, other cities much more attractive. If I were going again I wouldnt bother with Marrakech - too many tourists!
Btw those Atlas mountains are high - take care.
Marrakech was disappointing, other cities much more attractive. If I were going again I wouldnt bother with Marrakech - too many tourists!
Btw those Atlas mountains are high - take care.