NQ in FAA School in USA
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NQ in FAA School in USA
i remember it was discussed couple of times, but still would like to ask, if it possible to make 5hr nihgt training in USA at normal american FAA school with american non-JAA instructor and will it be ok for UK CAA to issue NQ into my JAA-PPL license? I know that there is no NQ in USA, but if i give JAA requirements to american instructor and fly exactly that programm with 1hr navigation and 5 full-stop landings etc.`?
Don't think so, you'll have to do it with a JAA approved FTO.
Outside of an FTO you will be hard pressed to find a FAA CFI willing to sign you off for solo night priviliges.
Outside of an FTO you will be hard pressed to find a FAA CFI willing to sign you off for solo night priviliges.
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A FAA instructor is not authorized to perform JAA training.
Welcome to protectionist Europe
The FAA, OTOH, accepts all training done anywhere else. Even training done in a G-reg with a JAA instructor.
There is a lesson here: when doing any JAA training, always try to structure the flights so that the FAA PPL requirements are met at the same time. It's pretty easy to do that, and then you can get a standalone FAA PPL without too much extra flying. The FAA PPL has more night flight than the JAA NQ.
Welcome to protectionist Europe
The FAA, OTOH, accepts all training done anywhere else. Even training done in a G-reg with a JAA instructor.
There is a lesson here: when doing any JAA training, always try to structure the flights so that the FAA PPL requirements are met at the same time. It's pretty easy to do that, and then you can get a standalone FAA PPL without too much extra flying. The FAA PPL has more night flight than the JAA NQ.
Not quite - UKFT is not approved by the JAA, despite their dishonest marketing. The only school on the west coast that holds a JAA approval is Anglo American Aviation at Gillespie Field, San Diego.
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UKFT are not an JAA approved FTO (hence cannot do JAA-FCL ab initio training) but they do have an approved JAA examiner. I'm not sure how this affects the NQ but they claim to be able to conduct both the NQ and IMC on their website (someone who understands the regs better than me can probably explain why).
If you're training in California and want an approved JAA FTO then there's Anglo American in San Diego. If its North America you're interested in then its either Florida or Moncton (in Canada).
If you're training in California and want an approved JAA FTO then there's Anglo American in San Diego. If its North America you're interested in then its either Florida or Moncton (in Canada).
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So little training is required to get a NQ in Europe that despite your rate, it still has to be cheaper than coming all the way to the US to find a JAA approved school and going through the Visa process. (I'm assuming that you would need a Visa as this is flight training).
UKFT do not train for a JAA license. There are a multitude of posts on here re UKFT.
UKFT do not train for a JAA license. There are a multitude of posts on here re UKFT.
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You don't need CAA approval for a NQ once you have a PPL......just a CAA certified examiner. Same for licence conversions, IMC etc....
It'll cost you say 5x $75 for a 172 and 4x$45 for instructor (I forget how many hours instruction are needed) = $555 which is roughly £280.
I asked the CAA if I could have a NQ based upon my American licence.....I have about 20 hours night. They said that I needed an amount of "minimum training to be determined by an FTO"..what a load of bollox.
It'll cost you say 5x $75 for a 172 and 4x$45 for instructor (I forget how many hours instruction are needed) = $555 which is roughly £280.
I asked the CAA if I could have a NQ based upon my American licence.....I have about 20 hours night. They said that I needed an amount of "minimum training to be determined by an FTO"..what a load of bollox.
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well, after all answers i still don't understand, if i can fly this 5 hours with FAA instructor or not...If yes, i don't need San Diego at all, in that case i can book 5 h training in any school in LA...So i still don't understand if UK CAA accepts those Hours in USA or not...
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I'm glad you asked that, as I was longing to see where the thread went about examiners.
If I hadn't been watching a DVD (Tom Hanks, Cast Away) I might have done the question before you.
So - why are you all quoting the requirement for a JAA examiner?
If I hadn't been watching a DVD (Tom Hanks, Cast Away) I might have done the question before you.
So - why are you all quoting the requirement for a JAA examiner?
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For NQ there is no need for examiner at all as there is no exam, so what do you mean with it?
I have tried converting my FAA Night hours to a JAA NQ but no joy, it really is a protectionist racket. Night is night, is night, is night......where ever you fly it.
If a CAA examiner is not required to sign, then I shall get my friendly JAA / FAA dual rated FI to sign it for me......
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If this information is wrong then I have been mislead by a CAA examiner in the USA in order to line his pockets with my money
BTW - what does it say on the form (where it asks for signature)?
If you want to do the training in the US, why not fly some dual at night, then take an FAA checkride? That way if you want to fly at night, just use your FAA licence...
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well, in that case i need US visa, TSA and written exam .I am not going to fly in USA so much, so i don't need stand alone license
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Not sure about the visa...
As an aside, the FAQ lists the criteria for needing to participate in the scheme as being:
- They are not citizens or nationals of the United States; and
- They wish to receive flight training for any aircraft that will lead to an FAA certification or type rating, regardless of whether training occurs in the U.S. or abroad.
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thanx everybody for your tips. I have done NQ in San Diego. Great school, very good instructors and nice place and weather. That was a JAA approved school http://www.flyaaa.com/school.html
We were flying from KSEE to KSNA and KTOA and was very interesting. Had a big fun there
We were flying from KSEE to KSNA and KTOA and was very interesting. Had a big fun there