Q about use of military airfield
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Q about use of military airfield
As we know MOD policy is to actively promote civil use of their facilities (providing it does not conflict with military ops).
Would they allow civil aircraft doing circuits?
I have RAF Woodvale in mind which is only used by tutors, small piston acft.
The reason is because it is fairly quiet and away from Manchester.
P.S. Does anyone know what the MOD charge in way of landing fee's and touch n go fee's? Or where i can find information. Thanks in advance
Would they allow civil aircraft doing circuits?
I have RAF Woodvale in mind which is only used by tutors, small piston acft.
The reason is because it is fairly quiet and away from Manchester.
P.S. Does anyone know what the MOD charge in way of landing fee's and touch n go fee's? Or where i can find information. Thanks in advance
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Woodvale is owned by the MoD. Ravenair apparently have an agreement to circuit Tuesday - Friday.
No idea of costs but you can bet it's a fair wedge. Landing fee for a C172 circa 58 quid I believe!
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Although I can't answer specifically for Woodvale, I fear the answer would be:
Yes, you can do circuits.
A standard landing fee would apply for each circuit.
You would quickly become poor!
but good luck trying...
Tim
Yes, you can do circuits.
A standard landing fee would apply for each circuit.
You would quickly become poor!
but good luck trying...
Tim
v friendly ATC staff at Woodvale, but they have to charge std MOD rates. V pretty field, plenty of birdtrikes, and lots of UAS Tutors around. Go there-preferably on a sunny day
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Just an important point to mention - RAF circuits are not the same shape as a standard civil circuit. It would be a very good idea if planning to practice circuits at any RAF airfield to know exactly what their local practices, circuit RT, etc. are.
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RAF are also very keen to maintain v.tight circuits so as if the donk stops in the cct you can at least arrive back on the field in whatever state.
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The best advice to you would be to ring the unit concerned. Whilst you will get lots of general advice on here, you need to speak to the horses mouth.
They will answer all your questions including the charges that will apply, and give you details of circuits, best time to go etc etc. The charges are laid down in MOD publication JSP360 if you can find someone with a copy(not sure if there is a direct link on the web) and although it's been a while since I needed to use the manual, I am pretty sure that there are still concessionary rates for training flights ie 75% reduction on normal landing fees. Rollers are charged at a different rate to overshoots(or at least they used to be) - worth bearing in mind if cost is an issue. You may need to pay a casual user insurance fee as well, unless you have an MOD waiver certificate - again, for current rates, speak directly to the unit.
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They will answer all your questions including the charges that will apply, and give you details of circuits, best time to go etc etc. The charges are laid down in MOD publication JSP360 if you can find someone with a copy(not sure if there is a direct link on the web) and although it's been a while since I needed to use the manual, I am pretty sure that there are still concessionary rates for training flights ie 75% reduction on normal landing fees. Rollers are charged at a different rate to overshoots(or at least they used to be) - worth bearing in mind if cost is an issue. You may need to pay a casual user insurance fee as well, unless you have an MOD waiver certificate - again, for current rates, speak directly to the unit.
HTH
Raven
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Doubt you would be allowed to circuit without a thorough briefing from the a/f ATC unit anyhow.
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This document mentions it but it looks like they need to kill any potential customers prior to letting them read it.
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Tosh! The gliders fly different ccts to the Tutors/at a different speed and we cope fine. You passed your PPL by displaying AIRMANSHIP, use it and just be sensible in the circuit. You will be just fine, poor, but just fine. You would have to PPR of course, but don't be scared off by worrying if your circuit pattern is ok. Call in and say hello to us sad/no mates helicopter crew in the police unit.
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Nice to hear it's more relaxed there jayteeto - at my home base all club ac are required to fly downwind at 80kts regardless of type to fit with the tutors (C152 beetling along almost at cruise speed, PA28-181 having to take flaps to cope with the speed...)
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Yes, It was a few years ago that I diverted there due to weather. Two days parking plus the other fees made me overdrawn that month. Check the fees before going.....