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Old 29th Nov 2006, 19:19
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Where can I have lessons for fixed wing Aerobatics

I had a trip in a Modded Pitts S2 a few years ago and loved every second. Watching the Red Bull air races last week made me think about doing more proper fixed wing aerobatics, not just a few lazy rolls and loops. I have limited fixed wing hours on a PPL as I went the heli route. Where, in the UK would anyone suggest for some good, sound introductory flying training, say the first ten hour block? Cheers.
 
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Where are you based? - world-class Pitts S2 and Extra 300 tuition available at White Waltham, plus the food is great, and plenty of competition aeros pilots around if that's your eventual goal.

Did I mention the food is great?
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Phone Bonus Aviation at Cranfield, and ask for Jo or Richard. They have a brand new Pitts, and it's fabulous.
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Old 29th Nov 2006, 21:06
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Have a look here:
http://www.aopa.co.uk/corporate/aerobatic.html
or here:
http://www.aerobatics.org.uk/training/traindir1.htm
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and here:
http://www.ultimatehigh.co.uk/
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Kiss my S

Something tells me that you are from oooopp north!

Try Cas Smith at Full Sutton.

If I'm wrong then all the above suggestions are fine, even Ed's!!
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Also http://www.nsof.co.uk, at Peterborough Sibson, ask for Charlie.
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If you are up north, try Cassells at Bagby - excellent training in a Slingsby from the ex British Champ - was 11th in world before the CAP fiasco !
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So what makes you think KMS is from up north ? Is squirrell a polite northern term for something ?
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Many thanks for the suggestions. Funnily enough I am from up north. I'll be giving them a call and maybe some of theother places too.

eharding, is it wise to take a trip in a Pitts with too much food? Might get interesting.

Cheers all.
 
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Originally Posted by kissmysquirrel
eharding, is it wise to take a trip in a Pitts with too much food?
Only if it becomes a Weight & Balance issue. Trust me on this one.
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Ed, is there such a thing as "too much food"?!!!!
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Originally Posted by Zulu Alpha
"too much food"
Nope. Read it three times, and I still can't make any sense at all of that phrase.
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To answer the original question re food.

I always recommend an almost full stomach (keeps the blood sugar level up) and lots of fresh air to avoid airsickness.

Also one good way to avoid feeling sick is to take the controls yourself

If you feel the slightest bit queasy then say so straight away, don't try and soldier on...it won't get better unless you stop.

Be warned though, airsickness can occur even after aeros have finished.

I would also agree with Stiks earlier suggestion of Cas Smith. A very nice guy who flys at advanced but trains lots of beginners. He has lots of experience of giving you an exciting time and keeping your Breakfast/Lunch.
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http://www.ontrackaviation.com

Robin 2160i. One of their recent students Rob Deeth entered in the Beginners category at the recent Aero Comp (Sywell?). Being the only entrant for that cat, he won by default!
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Originally Posted by BlueRobin
One of their recent students Rob Deeth entered in the Beginners category at the recent Aero Comp (Sywell?). Being the only entrant for that cat, he won by default!
It was at Fenland....which was an interesting weekend
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The Robin 2160 is nice for an aerobatic experience flight but has similar aerobatic performance to a Cessna Aerobat.
If you want to go any further than the very basics then you need a CAP10, Pitts, Extra etc.
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Originally Posted by kissmysquirrel
eharding, is it wise to take a trip in a Pitts with too much food? Might get interesting.
Cheers all.
You definitely have to go up on a near-full stomach because the dry heaves suck! (as quoted from a highly experienced B-52 crewman who's spent lots of time low level - and being sick!)
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The Robin 2160 is nice for an aerobatic experience flight but has similar aerobatic performance to a Cessna Aerobat.
Sorry, have to disagree here, Robin is MUCH nicer and the 2160i certainly has better performance.

Also find the thread title interesting, not sure where you would do non fixed wing aeros.
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