crossing the irish sea at night in SEP - possible?

[giloc]

Originally Posted by H Ferguson

thank you Consol,
we've also been a Republic since 1949, i find it a bit insulting when people call my country "Eire" ...

Bunreacht na hÉireann must really get up your nose then. From the preamble of the version in English: "We, the people of Éire, ..."

Great thread creep.

[H Ferguson]

Originally Posted by giloc

Bunreacht na hÉireann must really get up your nose then. From the preamble of the version in English: "We, the people of Éire, ..."

not at all ,but "eire" is sometimes used in a condescending way especially by politicians.

Kirstey i did say a 'bit'...

giloc , great argument name calling.

ok ,rant over

[giloc]

Originally Posted by H Ferguson

not at all ,but "eire" is sometimes used in a condescending way especially by politicians.

giloc , great argument name calling.

What 'name' is that then?

[giloc]

Originally Posted by H Ferguson

giloc , great argument name calling.
ok ,rant over

Originally Posted by giloc

What 'name' is that then?

HF, I see now - you mean 'thread creep'! In addition to being insulted by someone using one of the names provided for by the Constitution of Ireland, you see the term 'thread creep' and assume it refers to you! I think you're trying too hard to find your insults.

[Kirstey]

OK so this more thread creep.

So as a Englishmen.. how am I supposed to refer to the country of which Dublin is the capital?

[giloc]

Originally Posted by Kirstey

OK so this more thread creep.
So as a Englishmen.. how am I supposed to refer to the country of which Dublin is the capital?

The Constitution of Ireland says that the name of the state is Ireland or Eire. The Republic of Ireland Act 1948, adds Republic of Ireland as a descriptive name. Take your pick.

Note that "Southern Ireland" was the 26-county state envisaged by the Government of Ireland Act 1920, but it never really functioned, and hasn't existed as a political entity since 1922.

[dublinpilot]

So as a Englishmen.. how am I supposed to refer to the country of which Dublin is the capital?

Well the 'locals' would just call it "Ireland". If the context required a specific exclusion of Northern Ireland then the 'locals' would refer to it as "The Republic of Ireland" or more commonly, simply as "The Republic".

I don't think most people would take any offence at the country being called "Eire" but it does stand out, and identifies you as British (who isn't used to dealing here) straight away. It's just not a name we use in every day conversation.

For some reason I've never known most British people seem to use the Eire version. I suppose that's the version that is taught in British schools?

dp

[H Ferguson]

Originally Posted by Kirstey

So as a Englishmen.. how am I supposed to refer to the country of which Dublin is the capital?

Kirstey, Ireland will do fine as this is how nearly everyone refers to it . It would seem that it is a particularly British thing to call Ireland "Eire".

I have absolutely no problem with "Eire " being used as it is used on our stamps and passports. The point i'm trying to make is that "Eire" does have certain condescending connotations dating back to the previous centuary.

[quote:giloc] I think you're trying too hard to find your insults

Giloc i may have taken you up wrong, if so i apologize.

[tyro]

I'm British and I was taught it is called Eire by Miss Harris who was quite good at condescending connotations.

[H Ferguson]

right, there's only one way to sort this out,

let's hire a plane,

fly across the Irish sea,

at night,

in IMC

now , who's going to fly the plane


crossing the irish sea at night in SEP - possible?

[dublinpilot]

I've a better suggestion....

Why don't you guys fly over this direction next summer, we'll show you around, buy you a few drinks, let you chase our women (or men) around Temple Bar, and you see what we call ourselves, when we're all pissed

Isn't it time Pprune had an Irish flyin??

dp