Cross country time
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From: United Kingdom
Actually, you don't have to wait for EASA. That same definition of cross-country quoted by Whopity appears in JAR-FCL at Amendment 7. Mind you, Amendment 7 was only issued 4 years ago and, to be fair, we are talking about the UK CAA.
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From: 75N 16E
Regarding the FAA only (which is what the poster appears to be talking about) - Cross Country is ONLY flight > 50nm in a straight line from airport of departure to airport of destination.
So for the FAA IR, no, any flight of < 50nm which you have classed as "euro x/c" (as it doesn't apply in FAA land) does not count towards the 50 hrs x/c PIC.
So for the FAA IR, no, any flight of < 50nm which you have classed as "euro x/c" (as it doesn't apply in FAA land) does not count towards the 50 hrs x/c PIC.
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From: Kent
Doesn't this also depend on whether the school is Part 141 or Part 61? I thought that the 50 hours XC for the FAA/IR was only for part 61. As the schools that are SEVIS approved are Part 141 then for someone from the UK it should not matter.
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From: 75N 16E
ONLY if you have trained under part 141 all the way up to the IR.
141 was designed for fast track pilots going from zero to say CPL/IR/ ATP, like an integrated course, and required stages checks before the student can progress to the next training phase.
If you are training adhoc then you are not training pt 141. A 141 school can of course train you under pt 61 too.
(which is where this whole Visa misunderstanding comes in - Under an integrated 141 course of course you need a visa, but pt 61 schools can't issue a visa because if the course is adhoc and under 16 (18?) hours per week, no visa is required. I have seen a letter to this fact from US INS to one student. Most just issue a visa anyway as US INS don't really understand the system they are policing).
141 was designed for fast track pilots going from zero to say CPL/IR/ ATP, like an integrated course, and required stages checks before the student can progress to the next training phase.
If you are training adhoc then you are not training pt 141. A 141 school can of course train you under pt 61 too.
(which is where this whole Visa misunderstanding comes in - Under an integrated 141 course of course you need a visa, but pt 61 schools can't issue a visa because if the course is adhoc and under 16 (18?) hours per week, no visa is required. I have seen a letter to this fact from US INS to one student. Most just issue a visa anyway as US INS don't really understand the system they are policing).
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From: Hong Kong SAR
Cross Country in UK
I made it a rule to land where my car was parked. Local flying (maybe some aeros) or there and back for a breakfast fly-in.
Power flying with a PPL in UK is/was not a reliable form of transport, but still a lot of fun.
It takes all sorts.
My longest flight durations and distances were in gliders.
Power flying with a PPL in UK is/was not a reliable form of transport, but still a lot of fun.
It takes all sorts.
My longest flight durations and distances were in gliders.
Last edited by CISTRS; 4th November 2010 at 14:57.
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From: Rainham
Where did you do your towing? i tried to get in touch with all local clubs but none of them want to know unless your a glider pilot with them. Ive done gliding in the past but am looking to hour build.....same as you did i imagine. any advice?
