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Old 12th Aug 2006, 21:11
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UK fATPL to FAA PPL

Do I still have to visit the USA to validate all the documents as I have an FAA Student Pilot Certificate......

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Old 13th Aug 2006, 01:28
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Yep, unless you only want to fly with a CFI endorsement.

Which documents do you need to validate?
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An FAA FSDO will be able to issue you a FAA PPL + IA (given you have at least this in under JAR). AFAIK you have to show up personally; I stand to be corrected on that, however.

Maybe this form can be of any use?
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bfisk,

Thats the form however I just wanted to know as I have a student pilot certificate, would this suffice me from visiting the FSDO in the US, living in the UK means its a bit of a pain to fly over the pond to only get something signed....

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I hold a FAA Licence and had to go through the whole procedure just to get a duplicate licence issued.

I started in a FISDO was given the forms, sent them to Oklahoma and then had to get the CAA to verify my UK licence before going back to another FISDO to get an endorsement to replace the licence that had gone through the washing machine.

Guess I was laundering licences!
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Old 14th Aug 2006, 02:51
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Why would you want a FAA PPL based on your JAA PPL unless you intend to fly in the states?

Your student pilot cert doesn't really come into the equation as it only allows you to fly solo with the appropriate sign-offs from a CFI. You don't need the FAA form either, what you will need is the form from the CAA. They relieve you of about 35 quid (I think) tell the FAA that indeed your PPL is valid and then you nominate a FSDO office to collect your FAA PPL, thats issued and valid only with your JAA/CAA PPL. The FAA will also send you a letter of authenticity with the pick up details and this letter is only valid for 6 months. If that time expires then you'll need to start the whole process again. A lot of hassle unless you intend to fly over there


EDIT, the license the FSDO issue you is the temporary airmans cert. (white piece of paper) that you'll be able to fly on as soon as it's issued. After about 90 days they'll send you a funky credit card style FAA cert.
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Old 14th Aug 2006, 03:54
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Originally Posted by bfisk
An FAA FSDO will be able to issue you a FAA PPL + IA (given you have at least this in under JAR).
Unless there were changes made in the last 5 years, the US FAA never validated foreign Instrument Ratings-- if you wanted an Instrument Rating with that you had to submit yourself to the written and practical exams in the United States.

The UK CAA charges 35 Pounds just for a letter certifying that your license is valid?!?!? Man, you people get bent over A LOT in the UK.
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Old 14th Aug 2006, 06:41
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Why would you want a FAA PPL based on your JAA PPL unless you intend to fly in the states?

To fly an N-reg plane worldwide. With a UK/JAA license one can only it in the UK only.

Unless there were changes made in the last 5 years, the US FAA never validated foreign Instrument Ratings-- if you wanted an Instrument Rating with that you had to submit yourself to the written and practical exams in the United States.

I have no personal knowledge of this but a friend has just looked into this and found out something very similar. One exam and (IIRC) a checkride.
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Originally Posted by IO540
I have no personal knowledge of this but a friend has just looked into this and found out something very similar. One exam and (IIRC) a checkride.
I do have personal knowledge of this. Written exam needed but no checkride required (as at 4 years ago).
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Going to sit the FAA Foreign Pilot Instrument written exam (I'm JAA fATPL) this week. Will that allow me to fly a King Air (multi) with my instrument rating, on my FAA certificate. I know it would be PPL but it isn't for reward.

The aircraft is N reg in the UK. As I understand it you don't need a rating to fly one in the US...
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