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Old 21st Jul 2006, 20:10
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Angry Clueless Kemble.

A reliable source on another forum reports that Kemble now require hi-vis clothing to be worn airside by passengers and crew. An e-mail from Kemble Ops says:
Passengers are at all times to be escorted by the aircraft commander or crew member who is known to be competent to ensure his/her and the passengers safety. The wearing of high visibility clothing is mandatory.
Aircraft commanders or crew members, as applicable, are responsible for ensuring that a total ban on smoking whilst airside is observed.
The high visibility clothing rule applies to each person airside. One high visibility wearer in a group is non compliant and is not acceptable.
This will be in their AIP entry.



Time to send some e-mails of complaint?
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Old 21st Jul 2006, 20:49
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What utter nonsense!

What is 'airside' at a little aerodrome like Kemble in any case? Seems to me that they're getting ideas beyond their status - why?

Boycott the place until the stupid road-diggers' coats nonsense is sorted out by an adult!
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Old 21st Jul 2006, 21:11
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Compliant?

Compliant with wot?

Theres nothing in:-

The ANO

CAP168

CAP642

EU Ops 1

ICAO Annex 14

or The Health & Safety at Work etc Act.

so, compliance must be found in their Aerodrome Manual


mustn't it?



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Its this type of embracing of red tape that makes the UK a detestable place to live in these days.

So I don't anymore.

But its ironic that the tabloids blast Brussels for alleged nonsense, when so many gems are home grown.
 
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And who is the brainless idiot who thinks that this is a good idea?
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Old 21st Jul 2006, 21:25
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Take your choice from one of the following

- HSE inspector
- Insurance company underwriter
- Lawyer

Of course, it maybe none of the above, but I'd wager a couple of quid on one of them.
 
Old 21st Jul 2006, 21:47
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In the UK, it is always very easy to find individuals who jump on the smallest opportunity to make a job out of something totally worthless and pointless.

A lot of stupid and ultimately meaningless "standards" originate elsewhere in Europe

ISO9000
CE
RoHS

but the UK is fairly unique in that it has an apparently unlimited number of people who see even the most generally pointless or even damaging measure as a job/business/consultancy opportunity.

I suspect this is not an insurance requirement as such. It is probably some useless little man walking around with a writing pad, who had landed the wonderful job to oversee their health & safety policy and make recommendations, so they can show due diligence if something cropped up.

Imagine the stupid scene where a family of four turns up. They will have had to go to some pilot shop and purchase 2-3 different sizes of these stupid yellow jackets.
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strange as it seems I managed to navigate my way accross europe visiting 8 different airfields in 6 countries and not once did we see a yellow jacket. Allthough I suppose you could say Prague and Frankfurt amongst the bunch are only tiny airfields so dont count......
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This is absolutely crazy. Even Bournemouth only insists on one jacket per group. I have visited Kemble many times and I have never had to park more than twenty five metres or so from the gate by the restaurant. To require up to four yellow jackets to walk twenty metres is absurd. Please tell me this is a wind up.

I was planning to go there for the PFA rally next month. I probably won't now.
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Old 21st Jul 2006, 22:47
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as the pfa rally is about to be held at Kemble, why not get some stupid hi-viz jackets with " some appropriate" slogan written on the back, I'm more than certain someone can think up something, nasty ?
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Old 21st Jul 2006, 23:05
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whats the problem? they can't see you when you don't wear one!
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The consensus on PPrune seems to be that the opposite case applies
 
Old 22nd Jul 2006, 07:38
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Originally Posted by pulse1
This is absolutely crazy. [...]. Please tell me this is a wind up.
I was planning to go there for the PFA rally next month. I probably won't now.
Extract from AIP at http://www.ais.org.uk/aes/pubs/aip/p...es/302BP01.PDF
Airport Regulations
a Special procedures are in force for some flying events, details as published by AIC and NOTAM.
b Non-Radio aircraft not excepted.
c While airside each aircraft commander is responsible for the safety of his passengers and other crew members. Passengers are at all times
to be escorted by the aircraft commander or crew member who is known to be competent to ensure his/her and the passengers safety. The
wearing of high visibility clothing is mandatory.
d Aircraft commanders or crew members, as applicable, are responsible for ensuring that a total ban on smoking whilst airside is observed.
Hi-vis IS now mandatory
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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 07:54
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This is ridiculous of course.

But for the family of four, simply check out a couple of pound shops; you can now find hi vis vests in quite a few of them. All one size, not great quality, but who cares - for £4 you can throw them in the back of the aircraft and be legal and worry about more important things.

I had a nice little sideline buying these and reselling them on Ebay for a while, but full time instructors don't have time for that kind of stuff in a summer like we're having.
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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 11:38
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I recently saw a lovely fluorescent sorry hi vis jacket with the slogan on the rear stating " Im wearing this to cover someone elses back " says it all methinks
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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 11:44
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The wording is pretty much standard for any licensed airport when required by the CAA.
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I think the wording was probably "I'm wearing this to cover someone else's @rse"
Available here.
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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 11:46
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Where to get a slogan printed

Hi Guys,

I already have a high-vis jacket, but without a slogan.

I'd rather have this one printed with a slogan of my choosing rather than buy one with someone else's slogan.

Does anybody please know anywhere where I can have my preferred slogan printed on my jacket?

Broomstick.
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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 12:13
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Broomstick Pilot,

Practically any small printing company can do it...the sort of place that prints things on T-shirts etc. It's not very expensive...another little sideline I had on Ebay.
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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 12:25
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Originally Posted by BroomstickPilot
Does anybody please know anywhere where I can have my preferred slogan printed on my jacket?
Just buy a pack of the "iron on" paper made by Hewlett Packhard etc - available at WH Smiths etc - and make it up yourself. I made a couple up, and whilst not very hardwearing, they certainly work well.
The main thing to take care with is the temp of the iron - too hot and you'll melt the hi-vis jacket
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