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Old 20th Jun 2006, 20:53
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French Mil Low-flying routes

Planning a trip to France again soon. Can someone just remind me: can the relevant FIS advise about activity in these? I've only ever been through at the weekends before.

Also, where is that website with French RT phraseology?
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Old 20th Jun 2006, 21:40
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You can find out whether the large restricted areas (e.g. R31A1) are active with a call to the first unit e.g. Brest Info. They phone up the relevant mil unit (Cazaux or whatever) for you.

I don't know if this works for the low level military corridors but those are relatively easy to avoid vertically.

The problem is on Sundays when the big regional FIS frequencies can be unmanned, with an answering machine giving you another frequency, which is also dead! However I have not seen this in the last two years; instead I got a very sharp radar service all the way to the UK FIR.

I think that if going VFR one still has to flight plan to go around them. En-route you can ask for shortcuts.

If IFR then your CFMU-compliant route will probably avoid the stuff anyway. I've never tried doing DCTs in France when IFR; never had any need to since the obvious routes go through CFMU readily.
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Go to Olivia and look at the NOTAM page where you'll find a Low Altitude Zone listing or 'Zone basse et tres basse altitude' Here's an example

Ian

Message du 06/06/20
AZBA 06.06.20 PART 1/1
LS : 0356
CS : 1947
ZONE R45 A BOURGOGNE B AUTUNOIS
C ARBOIS D DOUBS
0830 - 1000 : ACTIVE
1100 - 1230 : NON ACTIVE
1330 - 1500 : NON ACTIVE
CS - 0230 : ACTIVE
ZONE R45 NORD
0730 - 1000 : NON ACTIVE
1000 - 1200 : NON ACTIVE
1200 - 1500 : NON ACTIVE
CS - 2400 : NON ACTIVE
ZONE R45 SUD
0730 - 1000 : ACTIVE
1000 - 1200 : NON ACTIVE
1200 - 1500 : NON ACTIVE
CS - 0230 : ACTIVE
ZONE R69
0700 - 0230 : ACTIVE
ZONES R53 A BEAUVAISIS D CAMBRAISIS
CS+30 - LS-30 : NON ACTIVE
ZONES R53 B SEINE C PICARDIE
CS+30 - LS-30 : NON ACTIVE
ZONE R152
CS+30 - LS-30 : NON ACTIVE
ZONES MA
CBA16B : 0630-2200 : ACTIVE
ZONE R143
08.30 - 10.00 : ACTIVE
CS A 02.30 : ACTIVE
ZONES CENTRE R139 CHER R142 NIEVRE
R144 LOIRE
R145 CREUSE R165 VIENNE
08.30 - 10.00 : NON ACTIVE
CS A 02.30 : ACTIVE
ZONES R56 LORIENT R57 BRETAGNE R147 CHARENTE
ZONES R149 A ORLEANAIS B TOURAINE
C MAINE ANJOU
02.00 - 08.00 : NON ACTIVE
08.00 - 10.00 : NON ACTIVE
12.00 - CS : NON ACTIVE
CS A 24.00 : NON ACTIVE
ZONE R194 NORMANDIE
02.00 - 08.00 : NON ACTIVE
08.00 - 10.00 : NON ACTIVE
12.00 - CS : NON ACTIVE
CS A 24.00 : NON ACTIVE
24.00 A LS-30 : NON ACTIVE
ZONES MA
R68ABCDE : 19.15-02.30 : ACTIVE
EN DEHORS DE CE CRENAUX
VOIR SUP AIP 072/06
ZONES SUD EST R191 A,B ET C HERAULT, R193 A ET B TARN, R589 LOT,
R590 A ET B MENDE, R591 ALLIER, R592 CANTAL
08.00 - 10.00 : NON ACTIVE
12.00 - 14.00 : NON ACTIVE
CS+30 A 24.00 : NON ACTIVE
ZONE R46 NORD
08.00 - 10.00 : ACTIVE
12.00 - 14.00 : NON ACTIVE
CS+30 A 02.30 : ACTIVE
ZONE R46 SUD
08.00 - 10.00 : ACTIVE
12.00 - 14.00 : NON ACTIVE
CS+30 + 02.30 : ACTIVE
ZONE R46 EST
08.00 - 10.00 : ACTIVE
12.00 - 14.00 : NON ACTIVE
CS+30 A 02.30 : ACTIVE
ZONE R46 N1 CORBIERES
08.00 - 10.00 : ACTIVE
12.00 - 14.00 : NON ACTIVE
CS+30 A 02.30 : ACTIVE
ZONE R46 N2 LACAUNE
08.00 - 10.00 : ACTIVE
12.00 - 14.00 : NON ACTIVE
CS+30 A 02.30 : ACTIVE
ZONES R166 A GIRONDE, B PERIGORD, C VEZERE
08.30 - 10.00 : NON ACTIVE
CS+30 A 02.30 : ACTIVE
ZONE R593 LES PUYS
08.00 - 10.00 : NON ACTIVE
12.00 - 14.00 : NON ACTIVE
CS+30 A 23.00 : NON ACTIVE
ZONE R594 A LANDES
CS+30 A LS-30 : NON ACTIVE
ZONE R594 B LANDES
CS+30 A LS-30 : NON
ACTIVE
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Old 21st Jun 2006, 08:20
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Perfect, thx chaps!
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And here's the phraseology on its new site in case anyone else is looking:

http://www.lomcovak.com/france/
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