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If it is so desperately cruel to subject a dog to aerobatics, of any sort, mild or more dramatic, such as an aerobatic display, then surely a dog would refuse to get in the plane more than once ...
"At airshows, Scholl often flew with his dog Aileron, who rode the wing as Scholl taxied on the runway or sat on his shoulder in the aircraft.
(http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero...lland_chip.htm)
Somewhere there is a picture of Art Scholl and the Chipmunk, inverted, with Aileron standing the right way up in the canopy, but I couldn't find it. Now, who's to say whether that video is of the dog's first experience of aerobatics. Only the producer and director can tell us that.
"At airshows, Scholl often flew with his dog Aileron, who rode the wing as Scholl taxied on the runway or sat on his shoulder in the aircraft.
(http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero...lland_chip.htm)
Somewhere there is a picture of Art Scholl and the Chipmunk, inverted, with Aileron standing the right way up in the canopy, but I couldn't find it. Now, who's to say whether that video is of the dog's first experience of aerobatics. Only the producer and director can tell us that.
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A collective answer to secret_pilot, monocock & fernytickles,
My blood pressure’s perfectly normal, but thanks all the same for asking secret_pilot. Many people here (most of those who find the clip funny & those who reply with painfully predictable comments) appear to have missed my point. I make no suggestion about stress on the airframe due to whatever G’s the aircraft may be pulling. My point is the pilots display of both cruelty and irresponsible behaviour. No-one knows if it is or if it isn’t fair on the dog. What we do know is that it doesn’t have a choice, which is cruel. Further, by letting things bounce around the aircraft - especially living things - the pilots have willingly invited an element of danger into the equation; they don’t know how the animal could react. I don’t care how well they profess to know the animal. It’s an animal. It has the very real potential to behave unpredictably which may cause disastrous consequences. This all adds up to poor airmanship, pure and simple.
I don’t expect people to change their opinion to be in agreement with me, but I do find it a little sad for those that think it’s okay to do this kind of thing in an aircraft.
It’s nice to know there’s one pilot in this forum by the name of cblinton, who not only has the sense to understand the point I made earlier, but recognises the display of poor airmanship. Like he/she says, it wouldn’t be funny if it was a child floating around. And if the child was one of yours? Mmmm… I’d like to see you all laughing then!
Safe flying everyone.
My blood pressure’s perfectly normal, but thanks all the same for asking secret_pilot. Many people here (most of those who find the clip funny & those who reply with painfully predictable comments) appear to have missed my point. I make no suggestion about stress on the airframe due to whatever G’s the aircraft may be pulling. My point is the pilots display of both cruelty and irresponsible behaviour. No-one knows if it is or if it isn’t fair on the dog. What we do know is that it doesn’t have a choice, which is cruel. Further, by letting things bounce around the aircraft - especially living things - the pilots have willingly invited an element of danger into the equation; they don’t know how the animal could react. I don’t care how well they profess to know the animal. It’s an animal. It has the very real potential to behave unpredictably which may cause disastrous consequences. This all adds up to poor airmanship, pure and simple.
I don’t expect people to change their opinion to be in agreement with me, but I do find it a little sad for those that think it’s okay to do this kind of thing in an aircraft.
It’s nice to know there’s one pilot in this forum by the name of cblinton, who not only has the sense to understand the point I made earlier, but recognises the display of poor airmanship. Like he/she says, it wouldn’t be funny if it was a child floating around. And if the child was one of yours? Mmmm… I’d like to see you all laughing then!
Safe flying everyone.
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'Like he/she says, it wouldn’t be funny if it was a child floating around'. - why not??
'And if the child was one of yours? Mmmm… I’d like to see you all laughing then!'
There are times when I want to do a lot worse than this to them, the little angels!!
'And if the child was one of yours? Mmmm… I’d like to see you all laughing then!'
There are times when I want to do a lot worse than this to them, the little angels!!
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Well I thought it funny and i love dogs
It just has to kept in perspective - if you need reminding, just visit some parts of china and see how our four legged friends are " treated"
It just has to kept in perspective - if you need reminding, just visit some parts of china and see how our four legged friends are " treated"
Secret pilot the last time I saw a rear seat in a C150 it WAS a bench seat (with s erious weight limitation and only one seat belt obviously).
Judging by the way that the various mutts I owned in the past used to love racing across the car / pick up bed when going around corners, I see no reason to suspect that the pooch in question was overly stressed. Dumb thing to do no doubt but not particularly upsetting for the canine aviator.
Judging by the way that the various mutts I owned in the past used to love racing across the car / pick up bed when going around corners, I see no reason to suspect that the pooch in question was overly stressed. Dumb thing to do no doubt but not particularly upsetting for the canine aviator.
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I don't supose the supposition that the guy in the left hand seat is blind makes it any better, does it (look at his eyes, they are like David Blunkett's)?
Who knows, maybe he did it regularly and the dog was used to it. Anyway, he needs someone to do the L part of the HASELL check!!
Who knows, maybe he did it regularly and the dog was used to it. Anyway, he needs someone to do the L part of the HASELL check!!
