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Old 3rd Mar 2006, 20:43
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C172's

you must sell your 172 as soon as possible - why - because it is the N model. That means cams made of something softer than chocolate ready made to spall on the followers. Dont like the idea of one drive feeding both mags either - wheres the redundancy in that. Check your static rpm to see if your valves are lifting all the way but sell it anyway cos it is going to cost and cost and cost..........Never known H2AD engine (lovingly referred to by all as "the Nail") to go past 1200 hours without major work. If you choose to persevere and end up changing the engine put an 0-360 in(its approved) as these , conversely, rarely dont make TBO. I can be trusted on this matter as i blew my brains in on two of these i bought some years ago - both did the same whereupon i had a delve and discovered loads of people had the same problems. Good luck!
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Old 3rd Mar 2006, 21:15
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Originally Posted by spernkey
Never known H2AD engine (lovingly referred to by all as "the Nail") to go past 1200 hours without major work
Now you do Spernkey! The H2AD did suffer from spalling under certain circumstances, mainly under use. The 'T' mod, using the correct oil/additive and regular use is the answer to the H2AD 'problems'.

My engine has had the 'T' mod from new, has always used the correct oil/additive and is used regularly. The oil analysis', corrosion checks and compression checks are always very good and it runs sweet as a nut. I have corresponded with a number of other H2AD owners and I hear the same things from them.

Thanks for the warning though, it's good to know you worry about my health
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Old 3rd Mar 2006, 21:54
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both of mine were t modded and did 600 hours a year - made no difference with the additive - so i must be just unlucky as they both got me right in the wallet. Not a health issue as only a moron would continue to fly with the horrid noises coming out of an engine that's obviously giving"full power"
Yep the h2ad has the courtesy to advertise its poor health and wont give you a sudden failure unless that lone mag drive pops of course! Good luck
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In reality, nobody is likely to pay these prices. So.... where do people get the parts from?

AIUI, if you pick up an old door from some scrapped aircraft, and get an engineer to sign it off as sound, you can install it. The US must be full of aircraft breakers yards.

I'd get onto google.

In this business, "connections" are everything. This comment won't apply to a Cessna door but knowing the real manufacturer of some common part (e.g. a door strut) is very useful info.
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Old 4th Mar 2006, 12:57
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I remember some years ago as the Chief Pilot of a corporate jet operation our Falcon needed a new thrust reverser apron. This consisted of several pieces of tin bent cleverly and riveted together....maybe 2' long and 1' wide...total labour time to make maybe 10-12 hrs....US100K...lots of fun going to the bosses with that little gem.

Some years ago I replaced the left wing main spar,bathtub fittings and one rib in my Bonanza...US5000. I hate to think what Raytheon would have demanded...I got mine from an aircraft 'recycler' in Oklahoma....it was indistinguishable from a new one.

Hunt around, you'll find one at the right price.

Alternatively get yours repaired. My Bonanza upper cowl (the part that swings open) on the right side has an area in the front corner...maybe 4 inches by a half an inch which has eroded away on the edge..don't ask me how its a mystery to me...replacing the cowling would run to thousands...an upper cowl for a C206 is around US$5000 apparently, about what I payed for my freaking spar .

The very talented airframe guy at the place that services my Bonanza suggested he just repair it...he showed me some of his recent similar work on an Ag plane in the hangar...most impressive...cost about AUD$800 he reckons...and its quite a complex shape..when he's finished it will be virtually indistinguishable from new...your door should be a doddle.

You can just about make out the eroded edge in this piccy...look in the blue stripe just above the prop blade and were the cowl edge is.

http://www.fototime.com/{1A40284F-D9...E}/picture.JPG

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Old 4th Mar 2006, 17:06
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I think a lot of the "remanufactured" parts are in fact the actual original parts, but the maker was prohibited from selling them directly, so they sell them via a connected "remanufacturing" business And, having all the certifications, they can issue an 8130-3 or whatever as needed.

You get the same part, same paperwork, at a fraction of the cost.

Contacts...
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Old 11th Mar 2006, 16:57
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Originally Posted by IO540
In reality, nobody is likely to pay these prices. So.... where do people get the parts from?.
Try Skycraft in Spalding. Lincs.

http://www.sky-craft.co.uk/

$41K for a couple of doors that's outrageous. I had to have the outboard 2-3 feet of my F127H replaced last year after suffering storm damage whilst parked outside. This included a new aileron. The complete wing had to be removed and after three months in the hangar, I was presented (or rather my insurance company was presented) with an obviously reasonable bill of 8,000 pounds sterling.
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Old 11th Mar 2006, 18:33
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MaxTech, if only mate! $41,000 for ONE door, not TWO
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Old 11th Mar 2006, 18:58
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Just for a laugh have a go at this ....

Go to http://www.cessnaparts.com/parts.cfm and search for part 0511803-53

or should it be
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Old 11th Mar 2006, 19:17
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Sure have, both.
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Old 11th Mar 2006, 20:17
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You think fixed wing parts are expensive?

I was sharing a hangar with a couple of A Stars. The engineer lamented the cost of a door hinge, a casting about 3" by 2".

$700 US.

I was amazed.

"And" he said " it looks as though we'll need the other half that goes on the frame."
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Old 11th Mar 2006, 21:47
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Trade-a-plane.com

1000s of ads

And you can drool over the warbird jet section too!

Sir George Cayley

ps Or you can go to Elstree or a similar field under cover of darkness with a screw driver and............
 

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