Ready for Air law?
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Ready for Air law?
I've been reading through this air law book now for the PPL (A), and have been testing myself with the confuser. Tomorrow I plan to test myself again and if all goes well perhaps put in for the exam (again).
The only worry which is also my question, if I just get to know the answers to the questions in the confuser, is that actually helping me? The questions could possibly be completely different in the exam!
The only worry which is also my question, if I just get to know the answers to the questions in the confuser, is that actually helping me? The questions could possibly be completely different in the exam!
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Re: Ready for Air law?
No - the questions in the exam are likley to be very, very, similar.
Unfortunately, the questions that you will need to answer in real life are written differently - and as you've only learned the answers to the questions in that book, and not actually learned the subject, then they are the ones that will let you down - but at least you'll get your 75% in the written exam.
Despite my attack - good luck with the flying (and the exams).
Unfortunately, the questions that you will need to answer in real life are written differently - and as you've only learned the answers to the questions in that book, and not actually learned the subject, then they are the ones that will let you down - but at least you'll get your 75% in the written exam.
Despite my attack - good luck with the flying (and the exams).
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www.airquiz.com is a useful site to test your knowledge as it has different questions to the confuser and makes sure you know your stuff!
If you can get 85-90% in both the confuser and airquiz, you are on track for a pass.
There are no shortcuts to any subject but these quizes highlight weak areas of your learning. You are best to re-read the whole section relating to your failed topic in the Air Law book.
Good luck!!!
If you can get 85-90% in both the confuser and airquiz, you are on track for a pass.
There are no shortcuts to any subject but these quizes highlight weak areas of your learning. You are best to re-read the whole section relating to your failed topic in the Air Law book.
Good luck!!!
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Also, be careful with the Confuser. There are a few questions that have the wrong answers marked in it. That caught me off guard. Its a great book, but dont take it as gospel. Its always better to learn the subject rather than just the questions though.
Good luck with it!
Good luck with it!
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I agree 100% with Keygrip.
It's amazing how many students I see who pass Air Law with very good marks, then go solo and move on to navigation. Soon after they start navigation, we get a day where the weather is very slightly dodgy, so I ask them what the legal minima for this trip would be. Or I ask them to plan a route through controlled airspace, and they do not understand how that is any different to uncontrolled airspace (sometimes they even thought it was impossible).
The very best students, in these situations, know the answers, but that's quite rare. The average or better-than-average student remembers reading this stuff in Air Law, and can probably find me the answer if I point him in the right direction. And then there's the students who have learnt the subjects from the Confuser, who have absolutely no clue, which usually results in me having to give them a long briefing (for which I don't get paid, by the way) on something which they supposedly have already learnt.
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It's amazing how many students I see who pass Air Law with very good marks, then go solo and move on to navigation. Soon after they start navigation, we get a day where the weather is very slightly dodgy, so I ask them what the legal minima for this trip would be. Or I ask them to plan a route through controlled airspace, and they do not understand how that is any different to uncontrolled airspace (sometimes they even thought it was impossible).
The very best students, in these situations, know the answers, but that's quite rare. The average or better-than-average student remembers reading this stuff in Air Law, and can probably find me the answer if I point him in the right direction. And then there's the students who have learnt the subjects from the Confuser, who have absolutely no clue, which usually results in me having to give them a long briefing (for which I don't get paid, by the way) on something which they supposedly have already learnt.
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Stuff concerning real flying is quite simple.
What just about nobody (including most instructors) can remember is that huge matrix of privileges in different classes of airspace, clearance to/below/above cloud, speed above or below 140kt, etc. Luckily most of it isn't relevant to the real world (because there's nobody up there watching you).
I think a lot of PPL students get frightened of controlled airspace because they have always been told to keep out of it no matter what. My instructor told me that if I ever call up Gatwick on the radio they will give me such a bollocking that I will never want to fly again. In reality, one just needs to ask for a transit, and as often as not one gets it. Outside the UK, one gets it a lot more often than not.
What just about nobody (including most instructors) can remember is that huge matrix of privileges in different classes of airspace, clearance to/below/above cloud, speed above or below 140kt, etc. Luckily most of it isn't relevant to the real world (because there's nobody up there watching you).
I think a lot of PPL students get frightened of controlled airspace because they have always been told to keep out of it no matter what. My instructor told me that if I ever call up Gatwick on the radio they will give me such a bollocking that I will never want to fly again. In reality, one just needs to ask for a transit, and as often as not one gets it. Outside the UK, one gets it a lot more often than not.
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FFF, crossing swords on 2 threads..... But as an Instructor you have a responsibility to provide a briefing just because you dont receive flying pay for it does not mean it is not an essential part of the learning process.
In the US instructors are required to give very thorough ground briefings prior to every flight even a check flight.
Perhaps this is why UK Instructors get such a bad rap and are accused of only being interested in the flying hours towards another job?
In the US instructors are required to give very thorough ground briefings prior to every flight even a check flight.
Perhaps this is why UK Instructors get such a bad rap and are accused of only being interested in the flying hours towards another job?
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"and as you've only learned the answers to the questions in that book, and not actually learned the subject,"
"I've been reading through this air law book now for the PPL (A)"
Seems to me like pilot will has been learning the subject, then testing himself,
so why the attack?
"I've been reading through this air law book now for the PPL (A)"
Seems to me like pilot will has been learning the subject, then testing himself,
so why the attack?
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Yorks.ppl, Thank you for the quotes. I have been reading the air law book, and have been testing myself with the confuser, although seeing as there is so much to take onboard with the book; I have managed to just know the answers to the confuser now with all the practice, and so my question.
Thank you to those who did help me with my question
Thank you to those who did help me with my question
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I've got the Thom books which have questions and answers for each chapter.
I have read each book from cover to cover a couple of times and done the exercises before the exams.
Also for Airlaw and Navigation had a couple of sessions with the ground school instructor
I logged onto Airquiz last week for the ones I still have to pass and it seems a good way of testing yourself.
I am also a tad over 60 yrs so learning is a bit slower
I agree with the other posters that it is not much use just knowing the right answers to the confuser when you are in a real life situation that demands a true understanding of the topic.
One student I spoke to reckoned airlaw was really boring, so I told him maybe you won't think that when you are on a collision course with someone because a,-you are at the wrong flight level and b,-you don't know which way to turn!
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I have read each book from cover to cover a couple of times and done the exercises before the exams.
Also for Airlaw and Navigation had a couple of sessions with the ground school instructor
I logged onto Airquiz last week for the ones I still have to pass and it seems a good way of testing yourself.
I am also a tad over 60 yrs so learning is a bit slower
I agree with the other posters that it is not much use just knowing the right answers to the confuser when you are in a real life situation that demands a true understanding of the topic.
One student I spoke to reckoned airlaw was really boring, so I told him maybe you won't think that when you are on a collision course with someone because a,-you are at the wrong flight level and b,-you don't know which way to turn!
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Bose-x - hello again Yes, you are quite right, I have a duty to brief my students, and I do so diligently. But it's so much easier to brief a student who has read the material that he told me he has read! You only need to read my posts on this forum to realise I'm quite happy to talk about flying.....
But anyway, you miss my point. My point is not that I don't like briefing people about Air Law. It is that there is a noticeable difference between people who study for the exams properly, and people who learn the questions in the Confuser.
Will - I can't speak for the others on the thread, but my reply was not directly to you, I was just following on from the general discussion on the use of the Confuser. If it seemed I was implying that you hadn't read the material, then I apologise, because that's not what I meant at all. Good luck with the test!
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Yes, you are quite right, I have a duty to brief my students, and I do so diligently. But it's so much easier to brief a student who has read the material that he told me he has read! You only need to read my posts on this forum to realise I'm quite happy to talk about flying.....But anyway, you miss my point. My point is not that I don't like briefing people about Air Law. It is that there is a noticeable difference between people who study for the exams properly, and people who learn the questions in the Confuser.
Will - I can't speak for the others on the thread, but my reply was not directly to you, I was just following on from the general discussion on the use of the Confuser. If it seemed I was implying that you hadn't read the material, then I apologise, because that's not what I meant at all. Good luck with the test!
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Will,
I also hope you don't think I was being critical,just giving my view as I am at roughly the same stage as you in the exams.
The trouble with e-mail is it's not the same as face to face.
Good luck!
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I also hope you don't think I was being critical,just giving my view as I am at roughly the same stage as you in the exams.
The trouble with e-mail is it's not the same as face to face.
Good luck!
Lister
