Wearing a uniform on your PPL training?
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The flying school I'm training with in Florida does require unifrom, so I wear it.
1 stripe - first solo completed
2 stripes - PPL
3 stripes - CPL
4 stripes - Instrument
However when I am not flying with that school I just wear regular clothes.
1 stripe - first solo completed
2 stripes - PPL
3 stripes - CPL
4 stripes - Instrument
However when I am not flying with that school I just wear regular clothes.
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. . . someone who just wants to do everything right before he starts to fly. . .
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For a start, dropping out of college is not the best start you can make to being the best pilot in the World. And were you joking about the stripes? I am convinced that the majority of professional pilots would prefer to be a nice shade of non-descript grey (but employed). Being any other shade (or colour) will make your life more difficut than it needs to be. If worn, the stripes, no matter what their colour, will appear to flourescent pink when you see other people's reactions.
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"Get your F$*cking hands out of your pockets you slovenly reprobate"
Acually I think you should wear what ever you want to wear and what ever puts you in the right mind to learn. Be it flight suit and gloves or shorts and vest. And also you have to remember that if anything does happen you need to be able to survive until someone turns up. So even though the planes heater can keep you comfy in shorts and t-shirt in the winter. If you do have a forced landing you might only have a pair of shorts and a t-shirt to keep you warm for a reasonable length of time.
Some times the mind is a funny old thing and a uniform does more than state an outside appearance to other people it also sets the inside up as well.
IF you feel it would be a help to learn. I would go for the cheapest clothing that can be ruined you can. Primark pair of chinos which i can vouch don't have an adverse reaction to avgas and only cost 3 quid a pair. And a normal white shirt from a industrial uniform shop. The dickies ones are quite good. Finished off with an front opening fleece. And a pair of thinsulate boots for the winter. The tinsil on the shoulders should be avoided at all cost.
A word of warning though. If you are walking about and appear to be in uniform some problems may occur. One person at sherburn had said fetish to wear uniform during PPL training. As a result another PPL student asked him a question and presuming he was an instructor went solo without being briefed or being signed out.
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(how is dear G-BEZZ these days folks?)
G-BEZZ lives opposite our Citabria in Hangar 2 and appears to still be shabby but much loved. I had a share in this aircraft from 1970 through to 1987. Fantastic little beast, many very enjoyable adventures in her all over Europe. She had a new engine back in the 90s (the 1990s) and seems to fly very regularly.
Barton? Uniform? Nope, enjoy civvie casuals, take a spare pair of shoes and stick the muddy boots in your car boot after flying.
Don't wear stripes. You might suffer physical assault. Unless you are Big and Hulking.
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It actually got worse as the interview proceeded. A sample -
Q. Will your airline sponsored students receive instructional priority over a privately self-sponsored student?
A. Are you kidding – of course they will.
Q. I will be on my own after test – will I be able to sit I on the routes of other students to gain further experience?
A. No – we really only do one route as we have an arrangement with the CAAFU examiner. Other wise I will have to obtain permission from our sponsors – who will probably decline any observation of their prospective pilots.
Q. Will you be able to help with the written exams? Do you have any courses available?
A. No – we only offer CPL exams.
Q. What is your first time pass rate?
A. That is confidential information and commercially sensitive.
I latterly discovered that a privately sponsored student had actually undergone 8 attempts to pass IRT – and was contemplating her third group of 3 attempts - at this establishment. I didn’t think this was actually possible because it was generally deemed that a quite talk over tea and biscuits after 6 attempts was enough to deter any further expenditure. Final attempt after a further approved course and 170A, at another school was successful and the comments from the examiner were very positive albeit he was slightly dubious at the outset of test because he had never examined anyone on their very last attempt! My point is that I think the implications of any organisation's training methodology has to be in some respects, judged by their first time pass rate
Needless to say – I did not rush into that organisation. The school I eventually chose were very relaxed about clothing and as long as you could peel an orange whilst flying an asymmetric NDB approach - as far as they were concerned - you could be buck naked
Q. Will your airline sponsored students receive instructional priority over a privately self-sponsored student?
A. Are you kidding – of course they will.
Q. I will be on my own after test – will I be able to sit I on the routes of other students to gain further experience?
A. No – we really only do one route as we have an arrangement with the CAAFU examiner. Other wise I will have to obtain permission from our sponsors – who will probably decline any observation of their prospective pilots.
Q. Will you be able to help with the written exams? Do you have any courses available?
A. No – we only offer CPL exams.
Q. What is your first time pass rate?
A. That is confidential information and commercially sensitive.
I latterly discovered that a privately sponsored student had actually undergone 8 attempts to pass IRT – and was contemplating her third group of 3 attempts - at this establishment. I didn’t think this was actually possible because it was generally deemed that a quite talk over tea and biscuits after 6 attempts was enough to deter any further expenditure. Final attempt after a further approved course and 170A, at another school was successful and the comments from the examiner were very positive albeit he was slightly dubious at the outset of test because he had never examined anyone on their very last attempt! My point is that I think the implications of any organisation's training methodology has to be in some respects, judged by their first time pass rate
Needless to say – I did not rush into that organisation. The school I eventually chose were very relaxed about clothing and as long as you could peel an orange whilst flying an asymmetric NDB approach - as far as they were concerned - you could be buck naked
Somebody of my acquaintance once was spotted by a fly-in marshall wearing a yellow jacket at Popham and was told to take it off since he might be construed as impersonating somebody official.
Just one of many good reasons to fly at Popham
G
Just one of many good reasons to fly at Popham
G
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Scott, dont forget too buy a big watch, that will make you a super pilot, and jeans and trainers, dont wear a uniform, you will get laughed at.
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Make sure you get a matching set of unifrom for your teddy bear and when/if you get your wings, sew them on every item of clothing you own, including underpants, just so people know you are better than them. This is what I did anyway, hope it helps.
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DS
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DS
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Having spent most of my training in a leather jacket and bike boots, well daps as the instructors complained about the fugg rising from the pedal area as the weather turned warmer .
I'd reckon it's not the clothes that maketh the pilot but the aptitude and application.
Now I've been flying from farm strips for a few years I've discovered that it's very hard to tell the PPL's from the ATPL's by their attire and very often harder to tell by watching them fly.
The guy who spends hours poring over the tafs,notams and planning the route to the n'th degree with whizz wheel and charts will probably be a PPL. The guy who shambles up to his aircraft in cords and wellies, fag hanging out the corner of his mouth, who kicks the tyres and then proceeds to ignore the noise abatment and departs at zip feet over the village at full bore and upon his return bounces down the runway like a kangaroo on steroids is nearly always an ATPL! (I presume that the casual approach at weekends is a reaction to the rigours of the day job). A while back we had a newly minted PPL take up hangerage at one of the strips I haunt. It was priceless to see the look on his face when he discovered that the old buffer he'd been regaling with wisdom and air lore for an hour or so was a line check captain for a major carrier with several thousand hours behind him!
.I'd reckon it's not the clothes that maketh the pilot but the aptitude and application.
Now I've been flying from farm strips for a few years I've discovered that it's very hard to tell the PPL's from the ATPL's by their attire and very often harder to tell by watching them fly.
The guy who spends hours poring over the tafs,notams and planning the route to the n'th degree with whizz wheel and charts will probably be a PPL. The guy who shambles up to his aircraft in cords and wellies, fag hanging out the corner of his mouth, who kicks the tyres and then proceeds to ignore the noise abatment and departs at zip feet over the village at full bore and upon his return bounces down the runway like a kangaroo on steroids is nearly always an ATPL! (I presume that the casual approach at weekends is a reaction to the rigours of the day job). A while back we had a newly minted PPL take up hangerage at one of the strips I haunt. It was priceless to see the look on his face when he discovered that the old buffer he'd been regaling with wisdom and air lore for an hour or so was a line check captain for a major carrier with several thousand hours behind him!
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BMI701EGCC, may I recommend the 5-stripe epaluettes from all good pilot supply shops. Discretely worn under a leather flying jacket, they will show that you a serious student.
