FAA PPL issued on the back of CAA PPL......help
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Ref. BEagles post above, all I can say is that they don't all react that way and it depends where you go, and how familiar they are in dealing with foreign pilots.
Ref. slim_slag above, the first quote seems to sound very much like what the CFI at the club I was renting from was arguing to the others who weren't sure what to do with me on the day...!
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Ref. slim_slag above, the first quote seems to sound very much like what the CFI at the club I was renting from was arguing to the others who weren't sure what to do with me on the day...!
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Many thanks for the responses folks - it's interesting to see the varied experiences of BFR / no BFR.
I did my PPL at OBA in 95, I returned two years later and was required to do a BFR. I contacted Adrian a few weeks back (i'm going to Florida in Feb and wish to hire an aircraft for a few hours) and he confirmed that I would need to do a BFR.
Due to a family bereavement I'm flying out to Palm Springs in just over a week's time. I thought it might be nice to do a few hours flying in the area so I got my sister (who lives there) to contact an outfit at Bermuda Dunes Airport - they too have confirmed that a BFR is required. Interestingly, the guy she spoke to at BDA told her that the aircraft insurance would be void if I didn't have a current BFR.
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I did my PPL at OBA in 95, I returned two years later and was required to do a BFR. I contacted Adrian a few weeks back (i'm going to Florida in Feb and wish to hire an aircraft for a few hours) and he confirmed that I would need to do a BFR.
Due to a family bereavement I'm flying out to Palm Springs in just over a week's time. I thought it might be nice to do a few hours flying in the area so I got my sister (who lives there) to contact an outfit at Bermuda Dunes Airport - they too have confirmed that a BFR is required. Interestingly, the guy she spoke to at BDA told her that the aircraft insurance would be void if I didn't have a current BFR.
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Everything I've read says you need a BFR, whether you have a standalone FAA ticket or a reciprocal one.
Every outfit I've ever rented from has had a "checkout" requirement too, so combining the checkout with a BFR (and an IPC if you have an IR) makes a lot of sense.
And don't forget renter's insurance - most decent renting outfits require you to have it. The minimum level costs about $220 a year.
Every outfit I've ever rented from has had a "checkout" requirement too, so combining the checkout with a BFR (and an IPC if you have an IR) makes a lot of sense.
And don't forget renter's insurance - most decent renting outfits require you to have it. The minimum level costs about $220 a year.
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Renters insurance - probably not a bad idea to get some. Some places insist on you having it.
I googled and came up with several firms offering it; most had websites that "needed attention" but Avemco and Aviation Insurance Resources (www.air-pros.com) seemed pretty straightforward.
I googled and came up with several firms offering it; most had websites that "needed attention" but Avemco and Aviation Insurance Resources (www.air-pros.com) seemed pretty straightforward.
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You can normally pay an extra few dollars per hour to cover you for the uninsurable excess. At least thats what I did on a T182T, paid $5 per hour more to cover the $2500 excess.
BFR is required by the way, everything that is required by a normal FAA ticket holder is required by an FAA based-on ticket holder....
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BFR is required by the way, everything that is required by a normal FAA ticket holder is required by an FAA based-on ticket holder....
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Hi Keef,
Renters Insurance, interestingly, I only became aware of this after my sister spoke to the guy at Bermuda Dunes Aiport (see prev post).
He said that if I wanted to take an aircraft for a couple of hours it would be cheaper to take an instructor with me (40 bucks an hour on top of the $75 an hour for the aircraft) as the cost of the insurance would be in the region $250 (payable if I wanted to go solo)!!
And here I was thinking I might be able to do a spot of cheaper flying in California
Renters Insurance, interestingly, I only became aware of this after my sister spoke to the guy at Bermuda Dunes Aiport (see prev post).
He said that if I wanted to take an aircraft for a couple of hours it would be cheaper to take an instructor with me (40 bucks an hour on top of the $75 an hour for the aircraft) as the cost of the insurance would be in the region $250 (payable if I wanted to go solo)!!
And here I was thinking I might be able to do a spot of cheaper flying in California
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Usually, the extra $5 an hour goes into the FBO's pocket and they give vague promises that they will not come after you for the deductible. So no real protection there at all, and the insurance company may decide to come after you anyway so you have wasted $5.
Renter's insurance provides a more reassuring coverage of your deductible, and you also get some liability insurance thrown in. I have enough liability insurance in the States to keep any plaintiff happy and stop them coming after my house. It's purely a guess on how much that should be. Covering yourself for tens of millions is just too expensive, I assume most people will be happy with a fraction of that.
Make sure you understand subrogation.
You need to make sure you are covered for medical too, most UK off the shelf travel insurance will not cover you for light aircraft, but you can get coverage for extra premium.
Don't think you can return to the UK and get away with it, you cannot.
Renter's insurance provides a more reassuring coverage of your deductible, and you also get some liability insurance thrown in. I have enough liability insurance in the States to keep any plaintiff happy and stop them coming after my house. It's purely a guess on how much that should be. Covering yourself for tens of millions is just too expensive, I assume most people will be happy with a fraction of that.
Make sure you understand subrogation.
You need to make sure you are covered for medical too, most UK off the shelf travel insurance will not cover you for light aircraft, but you can get coverage for extra premium.
Don't think you can return to the UK and get away with it, you cannot.
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I see. Normally when I rent, the aircraft is covered by insurance (as stated in the rental agreement) , except for a $2500 excess. This will be waived if opting to pay an extra $5 per hour / $70 per 6 months......
I might investigate RI though. Medical I do through Traffords on my travel insurance policy....about £150 per year for me and the Mrs worldwide.....
I might investigate RI though. Medical I do through Traffords on my travel insurance policy....about £150 per year for me and the Mrs worldwide.....
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englishal,
guessing that is a multi-trip travel policy. They usually have something like £2million coverage for liability, but the ones I've seen will exclude anything to do with flying unless you are a fare paying passenger. So if you pay the extra to remove the flying exclusion for medical purposes, do you also remove the exclusion for liability? If so, that would be an extremely cheap way of getting millions of dollars of liability coverage when flying in the US.
guessing that is a multi-trip travel policy. They usually have something like £2million coverage for liability, but the ones I've seen will exclude anything to do with flying unless you are a fare paying passenger. So if you pay the extra to remove the flying exclusion for medical purposes, do you also remove the exclusion for liability? If so, that would be an extremely cheap way of getting millions of dollars of liability coverage when flying in the US.
