Cessna 210 incident
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Cessna 210 incident
A Cessna 210 arrived at EGJJ yesterday, with a some what shorter than normal port wing. Outbound from Ireland but not sure which field. So, has anybody found the missing 3 ft or so???
I do have a picture or two, but am not sure how to post it. Sorry.
I do have a picture or two, but am not sure how to post it. Sorry.
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This C210 is an US Registered Allison Turbine version operated by PacNet, it was en route from Brittas Bay (S of Dublin) to Lisbon with 4 POB, 2 were engineers going to Lisbon to fix a B767. The pilot reported to London Info that he thought he had a bird strike on departure and was loosing fuel, the aircraft subsequently diverted into Jersey where it was discovered that 4 FOOT of the port wing was missing including the wing tip tank and half the aileron, everything outboard of the centre hinge of the port aileron had gone!!!
The amazing thing was that the aircraft flew for 2 hours in that condition and the pilot didnt have any control difficulties, possibly the extra weight of the wing tip tank on the starbord wing overcame the lack of lift of the port wing. It appears the aircraft hit a tree or some other object on take off as the strip is only 600 metres long and the aircraft was at or over MAUW.
There are 4 very lucky people out there, luck of the Irish I say.
The amazing thing was that the aircraft flew for 2 hours in that condition and the pilot didnt have any control difficulties, possibly the extra weight of the wing tip tank on the starbord wing overcame the lack of lift of the port wing. It appears the aircraft hit a tree or some other object on take off as the strip is only 600 metres long and the aircraft was at or over MAUW.
There are 4 very lucky people out there, luck of the Irish I say.
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I always assumed that too.
Yesterday I was at the Abbotsford Airshow and a chap flew a very amazing display in a Cub clone without an aileron, ( you know the kind of thing, "Who is this guy? Must have stolen a plane? My God, bits dropping off.........")
Yesterday I was at the Abbotsford Airshow and a chap flew a very amazing display in a Cub clone without an aileron, ( you know the kind of thing, "Who is this guy? Must have stolen a plane? My God, bits dropping off.........")
Re C210's.....
LUV them C210's and their ability to FLY....
4 ft of wing missing eh? Bet THAT got their complete and undivided attention!
Have many hours in them, and must be one of my favourite 'singles'.
God bless Mister Cessna's designers...
4 ft of wing missing eh? Bet THAT got their complete and undivided attention!
Have many hours in them, and must be one of my favourite 'singles'.
God bless Mister Cessna's designers...
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There is about 3-4ft of wing missing an inch further along and he would have lost the port aileron. Pilot vacated and said it was a bird strike, then changed the story about 4 times, I guess the reason they carried on was the money involved, later on that evening a HS125 from Biggin came in to take them down to Lisbon. Yet another case of stupidity vs. money, there is almost no way they didn't notice what had happened, any sensible pilot would have diverted to nearest field.
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Where was the money involved?
Are repairs significantly cheaper in Jersey? I know they don't have VAT in Jersey, but I never noticed much more than a 10% difference on anything on the 'high street' there.
(Genuine question!)
dp
Are repairs significantly cheaper in Jersey? I know they don't have VAT in Jersey, but I never noticed much more than a 10% difference on anything on the 'high street' there.
(Genuine question!)
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Maybe Jersey was the nearest field, they were en route to somewhere in Europe if I heard correctly. I know the pilot, and trust me. He made the correct decision if everyone was uninjured and the aircraft was OK.
Huh! He did in his hole make the correct decision! I know the field he flew out of,also. His fully-loaded takeoff was probably close to limits,he smacks a tree and instead of landing back in or diverting to Shannon, he decides to fly a very long leg over water, not to mention entering someone else's airspace with a damaged aircraft. Did he for one second, think about the passengers' safety?
what was that one about the bag of luck and the bag of experience again?
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what was that one about the bag of luck and the bag of experience again?
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"Doesn't look like 4FOOT of wing missing there. "
Checkout the report in the
Jersey Evening Post
(this link will only work today)
Hedgehopper
(edit text added from JEP)
Landing on a wing and a prayer
By Harry McRandle
AN Irish pilot flew for nearly two hours with over five feet of the aircraft's left wing missing before diverting into Jersey on Friday afternoon.
An Airport stand-by was called at 4.50 pm when the pilot reported having difficulties, including no readings from his auxiliary fuel tank. However, that fuel tank which began the flight in the wing-tip was later found on the ground in Ireland. The plane landed safely at the Airport at 5.10 pm.
Remarkably, the pilot was able to fly and steer the five-seater Cessna 210 after it was reported to have struck the top of a tree shortly after take-off from the Brittas House airstrip, about 18 miles east of Shannon.
There were three passengers on board the Pacific Network Air craft, two of whom were understood to be engineers being taken to Lisbon to repair a Boeing 767 on the ground there.
Measurements taken today show that 5 ft 3 in were lost at the back of the wing and 4 ft 3 in at the front. Investigators from the Irish Air Accident Investigation Unit are looking into what happened and a spokesman said that they had located debris from the private plane near the airstrip. It is also believed that the US Federal Aviation Authority may become involved, as the registration number N6593W is American.
Published 16/08/05
Checkout the report in the
Jersey Evening Post
(this link will only work today)
Hedgehopper
(edit text added from JEP)
Landing on a wing and a prayer
By Harry McRandle
AN Irish pilot flew for nearly two hours with over five feet of the aircraft's left wing missing before diverting into Jersey on Friday afternoon.
An Airport stand-by was called at 4.50 pm when the pilot reported having difficulties, including no readings from his auxiliary fuel tank. However, that fuel tank which began the flight in the wing-tip was later found on the ground in Ireland. The plane landed safely at the Airport at 5.10 pm.
Remarkably, the pilot was able to fly and steer the five-seater Cessna 210 after it was reported to have struck the top of a tree shortly after take-off from the Brittas House airstrip, about 18 miles east of Shannon.
There were three passengers on board the Pacific Network Air craft, two of whom were understood to be engineers being taken to Lisbon to repair a Boeing 767 on the ground there.
Measurements taken today show that 5 ft 3 in were lost at the back of the wing and 4 ft 3 in at the front. Investigators from the Irish Air Accident Investigation Unit are looking into what happened and a spokesman said that they had located debris from the private plane near the airstrip. It is also believed that the US Federal Aviation Authority may become involved, as the registration number N6593W is American.
Published 16/08/05
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Doesn't seem very sensible to fly for two hours with a damaged wing, and loss of fuel. In fact I would say it is a pretty stupid thing to do, who knows what unseen damage may have happened.....
Possibly financial reasons were involved....?
Possibly financial reasons were involved....?
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N reg charters
It's rumoured that he flew on for a while after take-off so he could figure out how to get his story straight about doing 'charters' on an N reg aircraft from a private strip in Eire.
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nice to see you expressing your intelegence.
Would you fly to an international airport where there are reporters to take photographs and investigators and everything else if you were sceptical about your storey??
I don't think so. You would have turned around and gone back into the quiet strip where you started...IF YOU HAD NOTICED which the poor bloke didn't
fair play to him i think anyway.
TD
Would you fly to an international airport where there are reporters to take photographs and investigators and everything else if you were sceptical about your storey??
I don't think so. You would have turned around and gone back into the quiet strip where you started...IF YOU HAD NOTICED which the poor bloke didn't
fair play to him i think anyway.
TD
Well,nouse
that's amazing, it really is. He hears a loud bang, the aircraft yaws violently, sheds a large piece of itself and loses fuel and he doesn't see anything? Were his engineer passengers too shocked to speak? They must have been struck dumb and blind in one fell swoop!! Them new-fangled ANR headsets are really good,I hear, but I don't think they can drown out the sound of aluminium tearing. I think the decision-making process went out the window, on this one.
TDD
that's amazing, it really is. He hears a loud bang, the aircraft yaws violently, sheds a large piece of itself and loses fuel and he doesn't see anything? Were his engineer passengers too shocked to speak? They must have been struck dumb and blind in one fell swoop!! Them new-fangled ANR headsets are really good,I hear, but I don't think they can drown out the sound of aluminium tearing. I think the decision-making process went out the window, on this one.
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Isnt it an offence to recklessly endanger a person or aircraft?
Should have taken him 5 minutes after the collision to realise his aircraft was in a potentially un airworthy state, from that point on he was reckless as to the safety of his passengers. What an idiot!
What were those engineers thinking of sitting in the back they would have the clearest view of the wing. If I'd have been them I'd have insisted that the plane be landed at the nearest possible airfield.
They are all lucky to be alive.
Should have taken him 5 minutes after the collision to realise his aircraft was in a potentially un airworthy state, from that point on he was reckless as to the safety of his passengers. What an idiot!
What were those engineers thinking of sitting in the back they would have the clearest view of the wing. If I'd have been them I'd have insisted that the plane be landed at the nearest possible airfield.
They are all lucky to be alive.