Min Fire extinguisher?
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Min Fire extinguisher?
Folks have to get a fire extinguisher for the cabin of my cub for up coming annual. Question is where can I purchase a mini fire extinguisher in the UK? I need one that is light and has proper mounting brackets. If you go on line to Sportys in the states they have the very thing which is a mini halon one. dont think halon is allowed here for GA. Can you help me as shipping one from the states is a bit of a deal......
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Any of these do?
Mini Fire Extinguishers - You need to search once on the site, it wouldn't let me use a direct link
Chubb Extinguishers
Mini Fire Extinguishers - You need to search once on the site, it wouldn't let me use a direct link
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http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/ORS4_512.PDF
this form has relevance for us all on G Regs and is very specific re the use of powder type of extinguishers which it does not recommend.......hence my query.
this form has relevance for us all on G Regs and is very specific re the use of powder type of extinguishers which it does not recommend.......hence my query.
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Where does it say that? I always carry one in the balloon - the powder one is required as part of the equipment, but powder leaves a heck of a mess in wickerwork and it's acidic when damp.
I believed that halon was the only approved fire extinguishment permitted on airliners: the Australians were subject to a "ban halon on environmental grounds" a while ago and their reply tended towards the Foxtrot Oscar variety.
Manufacture of new halon extinguishers is no longer permitted, but there is no restriction on refilling existing ones.
Don't even get me started on the EU inspired change of colour codes. Everything red is an extingiusher. So helpful and easy to remember in the dark.....
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dont think halon is allowed here for GA.
I believed that halon was the only approved fire extinguishment permitted on airliners: the Australians were subject to a "ban halon on environmental grounds" a while ago and their reply tended towards the Foxtrot Oscar variety.
Manufacture of new halon extinguishers is no longer permitted, but there is no restriction on refilling existing ones.
Don't even get me started on the EU inspired change of colour codes. Everything red is an extingiusher. So helpful and easy to remember in the dark.....
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I think halon is still allowed in aircraft but that is the only exception to the rule.
I handed my halon extinguisher in and thought, "you are going to look a right twit if your workshop burns down now." I do still have a foam one though.
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I handed my halon extinguisher in and thought, "you are going to look a right twit if your workshop burns down now." I do still have a foam one though.
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Most fire extinguishers in a/c you can't reach without having to unstrap your harness or turn around and stretch, and all the ones I have seen in a/c say 'Do not use in confined spaces'
If my a/c catches fire I'm a jumpin'....
On that point, has anyone had a fire? If so what did you so?
If my a/c catches fire I'm a jumpin'....
On that point, has anyone had a fire? If so what did you so?
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Um I don't think you've thought that one through properly! Don't they have braille markings like HAZ chem drums for using in the dark! 
(YES I know what you mean about the colour coding)
We have a fire pistol on our aircraft. It's so old we reckon that if we did have to use it all we'd get is a baton round!
Everything red is an extingiusher. So helpful and easy to remember in the dark.....
(YES I know what you mean about the colour coding)We have a fire pistol on our aircraft. It's so old we reckon that if we did have to use it all we'd get is a baton round!
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If I had a serious fire in the air and I had a parachute, I would go over the side. However, I have never known this to happen. I have seen several overprimed engines start fires on the ground, all of which were put out by the fire extinguisher in the aircraft, and several others from near by aircraft!
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This is an enigma. If you have never used a powder extinguisher, you will be unaware of the consequences of doing so in a very confined area, i.e. in the cockpit.
The powder that is used is extremely fine. The rate of discharge from any powder extinguisher I have used (quite a few) is at least an initial huge delivery followed by forceful flow lasting until the thing is empty.
The trouble is, even when they are fitted with a trigger, supposedly to control the flow of powder, the actual amount of control available is about useless in a situation we are describing.
The upshot is this. To use a powder extinguisher in a confined space such as an aircraft cockpit is in my own opinion hazardous in the extreme, simply because the effect produced is to suffocate the fire, which it does very effectively. But it will also suffocate the occupants of the cockpit, or at very least render them incapable, very quickly.
The powder that is used is extremely fine. The rate of discharge from any powder extinguisher I have used (quite a few) is at least an initial huge delivery followed by forceful flow lasting until the thing is empty.
The trouble is, even when they are fitted with a trigger, supposedly to control the flow of powder, the actual amount of control available is about useless in a situation we are describing.
The upshot is this. To use a powder extinguisher in a confined space such as an aircraft cockpit is in my own opinion hazardous in the extreme, simply because the effect produced is to suffocate the fire, which it does very effectively. But it will also suffocate the occupants of the cockpit, or at very least render them incapable, very quickly.
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Assuming the fire was coming through the fire wall, I`m not sure foam would put it out, so I would shut off the fuel, and use the foam on my legs to buy me some time to get to the deck.
Probably.
Probably.
