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Old 28th December 2004 | 16:37
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When I get my now ICAO CPL/IR, due to my stupid eye......I want to do a year's flying in Africa - charity doctors type thing, don't care about the money!

What aircraft can I hope to fly on without needed a big fangled type-rating!

I'm sure the answer is here somewhere, but my fingers are hurting from trolling the net reading the FAA regs for me PPL!!
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Old 28th December 2004 | 17:56
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Not sure what you are on about.....?

I think what you're asking is what is the biggest plane you can fly on a PPL on misionary flights?

The biggest private plane insurance companies will let you fly on a PPL anywhere would probably be something like a C402, piper navajo, beechcraft duke that kind of size and complexity. Kingairs and PC12's require CPL's and Beech 1900's require ATPL's. So don't bother with those.

In Africa on misionary flights go for a C185 or C206. They are rugged and well supported in Africa, they also shouldn't pose a problem when you are getting insurance.

PS pleease get proper training before flying here, there have been too many foreigners writing off planes here.

Speak to the Mision Aviation Fellowship, they have a base out here and I'm sure they will be willing to help you out.

Hope that helps,
Gerard.
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Old 29th December 2004 | 09:00
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Will depend upon whose banner you are flying under.

For example, the South African CAA require a type-rating for a C150.

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Old 30th December 2004 | 11:35
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thanks folks. happy new year to you all!
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Old 30th December 2004 | 14:24
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If you're talking FAA then a type rating is only required for all jets and any aircraft over 12,500lbs provided the operation is 'part 91' (General Aviation) - not part 121 or 135.

So - anything up to King Air 200 is non typed in that respect.
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Old 30th December 2004 | 14:46
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In the USA under the FARs no type rating is required for second in command. I'm guessing that under part 91 no TR is required to act as SIC even when abroard.

In order to meet ICAO requirements they're going to release a SIC rating, which will enable a non type rated FO to act as SIC under 121/135 under international operations....
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Old 1st January 2005 | 19:00
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Why oh why is there such a difference between JAA and FAA?
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Old 1st January 2005 | 19:29
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Why oh why is there such a difference between JAA and FAA?
I don't think there's a polite answer to that.

It the same as the answer to "why does my phone work in 199 countries in the world but not the USA", "why are paper sizes the same in 199 countries but not in the USA", "why do the USA use T1 lines where everyone else uses E1" ect ect ect ect ect ad nauseam.

The charitable interpretation is that the Americans are worse at NIH than the rest of the world. The even less polite interpretation is that they regard any "international standard" as being "European" and therefore by definition "communist" so they won't have anything to do with it.
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Old 1st January 2005 | 23:04
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"why does my phone work in 199 countries in the world but not the USA"
Obviously not buying the right phone
Why oh why is there such a difference between JAA and FAA?
Or, to take an opposite stance to Gertrude - could it be that being the largest GA operating country in the world, possibly (probably?) The largest aircraft operating country (numerically speaking) they have realised that a more common sense attitude to licensing is what is necessary?
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Old 3rd January 2005 | 18:56
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Yep! Have to side with Chilli Monster on this one!
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