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Old 9th Dec 2004, 16:11
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is it about time that everyone----- i mean everyone pulled in the same direction to get the club flying again, you cant blame Mr Parkin for what he did with the landing fees as there were the same amount of people flying the club aircraft after the rates went up.

If he had`t of put the landing fees, on the same thing would of happend 6-12 mouth down the line, Mr Parking has done us a good turn in a way by stopping the aero club from running for the money it ows for langing fees thus bringing the mismanagment of the club funds and dodgy deals to the forfront of the membership they should be proud of what they have done.

if we are now to be owned by a aussie who appers to have three flying schools and a very big stock of aircraft so be it, he will have a aussie sence of humor, humor has been missing from the club for along time. If the Mr Golfin is willing to put the money in and supply new aircraft to move the club foward so be it. It is a small price to pay to put newcastle aero club back on the map, in my view to run it as a buissnes and not as a retierment fund can only be good.

SO GOOD LUCK TO THE CLUB AND TO MR GOLFIN as this is safest way to go for the club it will get rid of all hangers on and make the club sound onec again.

thank you
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what a NIGHT

HELLO ALL,

WELL WHAT A EVENING,

DID ANYONE NOTICE HOW KEITH LISTER ALAN COULSON
LOOKED BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED AND THEN HOW THEY
LOOKED DURING THE MEETING,I MUST SAY VERY WORRIED
INDEED NOW THAT CRIMINAL ACTION WILL TAKE PLACE.
ALSO MAY I ADD THAT ALL THE DIRECTORS AND CHAIRMEN
OF THE SO CALLED LITTLE WINGS WHICH THEY CREATED
ALL RESIGN THIS WEEK, WELL I MUST SAY GETTING VERY
INTRESTING ALSO THAT MR KEITH LISTER HAS APPLIED
FOR A NEW PASSPORT,WONDER WHERE WE ARE GOING KEITH
"ON A ONE WAY TICKET".
THE BIGGEST AND SUPPOSE THE MOST WORRYING THING
FOR THE OLD ADMINISTRATION IS THAT RMT WILL STILL BE
INVESTIGATING THE CLUB DEBT AFTER IT IS SOLD OFF FOR AT
LEAST 6 MONTHS AFTERWARDS.
I DON'T HOPE THEY GET THEM DUE TO THE FACT THAT I KNOW
THAT THEY WILL, A LOT OF MEMBERS ARE NOT GOING TO LET
THEM GET AWAY WITH IT.
HAS ANYONE ESLE GOT ANY NEWS TO TELL
PLEASE DO.

MIKE

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Old 9th Dec 2004, 20:30
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Tell me more! Been packing for a house move all night :'(

G-WK
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Old 9th Dec 2004, 20:39
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Gentleman

Well, not a lot to report - basically just the admin people outlining what has happened and the fact there was a "fare bit of interest" from other parties.

Very subdued, I just couldn't ask anything - everything I wanted to ask just would not have been prudent.

Cheers

M
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Old 9th Dec 2004, 22:39
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newcastlepilot

Coulson came into the meeting about half way through, just stood by the main door.

Good posting mate - did you have a note pad with you??

Not sure what category Elia's proposal may come under,but he is a "members" guy and feels strongly about how we have been treated in the past.

Good night guys

M

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Old 9th Dec 2004, 23:01
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good post newcastle pilot,

I really think that option 2 will happen and I think
that is what we all want.
lets hope this helps us nail the people involved in
robbing the poor members.
this story will be around for some time.
good night ALL
MIKE
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Old 10th Dec 2004, 10:28
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The Meeting !

Salutations one and all (and Topjet )

Newcastlepilot :
My concerns were that the administrators would add a huge cost to the already mounting costs as they were a london based outfit
and obviously expensive but this would appear not to be.

Ref Option 1
Who in their right mind would bail out the club as it is with it's tag along band of gypsy,s (well known for removing property not there own) Exceptions: JC IC AB JO M A Forget It !!!

Option 2
Ace if it all comes together.
What we don not need is a BOF toe tag ready committee, Sorry gents but lets move into the 21st century !!

Option 3
Dont go there !

Finally a qoute from the bible.

God helps those who help themselves
God help you when you get caught!

If you cant do the time don't do the crime !

Fly straight..........

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Old 10th Dec 2004, 10:53
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keith lister

hello newcastle pilot,

just goes to show us all the way
these individuals used the club's funds for their
own pleasure.
I believe that all of them are a little worried now
I just hope that crown are called soon to put
them away.

mike

great post's newcastle pilot
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Old 10th Dec 2004, 11:29
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Mrs Kestevan

I am led to believe that a condition of employment with Gateshead MBC and indeed any council is that outside interest's are disclosed to the employer.

Have they been informed of her interest in The Newcastle Flying School and sundry other involvements ???
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Old 10th Dec 2004, 15:24
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Devil John & Malcolm

Well Said John !!!

I think gents that we are again sniping in the dark, JO/MA have as John said given more than they have taken.
Would any of us do 12 hours for nothing.

At the end of the day the administrators will decide the fate of the guilty and it will all be out in the open they may resign but they can't hide.
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Old 10th Dec 2004, 15:40
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Gentleman:

Ovey: We all know the invaluable work you and Malcolm do for very little reward, however I doubt the administrators will be chasing you and "Armageddan" round the airfield!

Hold Foxtrot: Here here! - we need to concentrate on the job in hand, a little too much sniping of late - Members, let's stick together on this and be strong.

The necessary authorities will deal with any individuals if/when any wrong doing is uncovered.


Heads up..

M
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Old 10th Dec 2004, 16:01
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hi all,

lets help and get the club back up and support the
new owner, whoever that maybe!!!!!

I am for helping the admin people in getting the
involved in taking our money.

I don't think it will be long before charges are made.

mike

have a good weekend ALL
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Old 10th Dec 2004, 16:31
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Strange atmosphere in the Club last night, I thought. Was wondering when people were going to 'kick off' but there wasn't anyone there to go for! An earlier thread said it was like a funeral, I'd like to think it was more of 'the end before a new beginning'.

Newcastle needs a flying club and the passion shown on these boards and talking to members generally can only be a good thing for whatever the future brings.

Although there may have been wrong doings in the past, its best left to the professionals to decide their fate, if proven. I say you have to move on.
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Old 10th Dec 2004, 16:55
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In response to John Overtons posting may i just say that in the 10+ years i have been a member John and Malcolm have certainly been the most loyal, hardworking and honest staff i have dealt with in that flying school office and nothing was a problem for them to deal with,
Many Thanks for all your hard work.

F.T.L
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Old 10th Dec 2004, 17:20
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Despite being asked not to, at least one member spilled their guts to the Journal last night.Not a pretty sight!
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newcastlepilot If it wasnt for JO and Malcolm there would have certainly been less night/evening flying as there would have been no-body to fuel and dont forget the groundschool courses that have been run during the evenings helping many pilots to earn their wings.

F.T.L
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I've read newcastlepilots's posts with interest and some admiration but the last post about JO/MA was overstepping the mark.
I would be amazed if regular flyers would despise the amount of pay given to these stalwarts of the club.
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Old 10th Dec 2004, 18:05
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newcastlepilot,

I admire your determination in trying to get to the bottom of this awful mess - but you are bang out of order replying to JO's post in that manner. Why on earth should MA make a post given the response he is likely to receive?

If your intention was to nurture these Gents into 'dishing the dirt' then I believe you may have just dumped in your own nest.
 
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Newcastle Upon Tyne Aero Club

Dear Members:

Pleas please please can we STOP these personal attacks on each other.

We do not want this thread to be the laughing stock of PPRUNE, but carry on like this and it will. I have already had to privately email one PPRUNER because I felt his postings were nothing more than personal attackss, so come on guys - lets fight for each other - not against.

Good luck

BB
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Old 10th Dec 2004, 19:53
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Sorry to see it all collapsing in on itself, but the writing has been on the wall for at least 3 years now.

We may have all moaned about how badly things were going but did anyone really do anything to stop this??

Rather suspect it's too late now, and I guess Samson can at last have the whole southside for it's bizjets.

Hope something keeps the good name going tho.


LJ


PS. JO/JC/MA Absolute pleasure knowing you guys. Long hours.... No pay..... Thanks for your efforts over the years!!


PPS................Schumacher??????????
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