Wives Attitude Towards Flying...
Problem with tatty looking aeroplanes is that unless you are of a deeply mechanical bent, you are unable to judge whether it's truly safe or not - so most people (of either sex) will end up with the view that if it's not well looked after externally, the innards are probably dodgy as well. A perfectly natural human reaction that I'd regard as perfectly sounds in anybody of either sex, who has a sense of self preservation, but perhaps no engineering training.
That said, I've seen some pristine looking aeroplanes that when you investigate more deeply are not particularly safe or properly maintained. On the other hand, many of the "old and bold" (myself included
) own aeroplanes that superficially are very tatty, but under the skin are near-perfect.
But, nonetheless, to see a tatty aeroplane is to raise your suspicions - and quite right too.
G
That said, I've seen some pristine looking aeroplanes that when you investigate more deeply are not particularly safe or properly maintained. On the other hand, many of the "old and bold" (myself included
) own aeroplanes that superficially are very tatty, but under the skin are near-perfect.But, nonetheless, to see a tatty aeroplane is to raise your suspicions - and quite right too.
G
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Sorry Io-540 you've got some of the girls wrong.
My biggest problem is stopping Mrs WB from spending all of our money on flying. She owns and operates a pre war vintage racer as well as the YAK52. One of her greatest pleasures is taking her non radio (now I know you will not like that) racer and flying for the sheer joy of that. Or taking the YAK and flying just for three dimensional expression. Yep she will hop in something and go to places, but if travelling would rather go schedule with a wine glass in hand.
I won't go into the horse aspect as the nag is more expensive than the aircraft.
With the impending arrival of Wide-Baby in the New year the chippie has to go. But she is the instigator of looking for a suitable three seat replacement, but that is another topic.
IO-540 come to Waltham and meet her, and fill in the gap. You will meet more than one woman there who flies for the Joy alone.
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My biggest problem is stopping Mrs WB from spending all of our money on flying. She owns and operates a pre war vintage racer as well as the YAK52. One of her greatest pleasures is taking her non radio (now I know you will not like that) racer and flying for the sheer joy of that. Or taking the YAK and flying just for three dimensional expression. Yep she will hop in something and go to places, but if travelling would rather go schedule with a wine glass in hand.
I won't go into the horse aspect as the nag is more expensive than the aircraft.
With the impending arrival of Wide-Baby in the New year the chippie has to go. But she is the instigator of looking for a suitable three seat replacement, but that is another topic.
IO-540 come to Waltham and meet her, and fill in the gap. You will meet more than one woman there who flies for the Joy alone.
Best regards
Wide
Flash 0710. I promise not to show your last post to the Waltham girls
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Mine wants me to teach her too. I've managed EoC 1&2 over the years. Two bandits in tow nowadays means weekend flying is sometimes frowned upon however it's OK during the week.
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For the past 24 years, Mrs B9 has been a stalwart supporter of my hobby starting with her sitting on the edge of a field in Cambridgeshire, patiently waiting for the weather to improve enough for me to get airborne in my microlight, and continuing (once I had converted my PPL(D) to a PPL(A)) by joining me for many hours in a Cessna touring Europe. With two bicycles folded in the baggage hold and a box full of maps, Bottlang and spare clothes we would spend 2 to 3 weeks at a time going wherever the fancy took us including, during one Summer holiday, an epic journey from the South of France to the Arctic Circle. We rarely planned more than one day ahead, used the Rough Guides to find reasonable accommodation, and have a photo album and log books full of memories that we still talk about 6 years later, the arrival of children having restricted our touring activities. If there were a prize for the most supportive pilot's wife then Mrs B9 would certainly get my vote.
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My wife bought me my trial lesson, 13 years ago. Haven't looked back since!!
Whilst she's never flown hands on, (except fr a brief LH seat instruction), we (wife, two kids and dog) still go on trips -even a thirty minute blast to go to the beach on the IOW is fun!!
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Whilst she's never flown hands on, (except fr a brief LH seat instruction), we (wife, two kids and dog) still go on trips -even a thirty minute blast to go to the beach on the IOW is fun!!
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As I suggested, few people here were likely to agree with me. The audience here is already a selected sample.
Trying to say - ON PPRUNE OF ALL PLACES - that today's GA fleet is too decrepit to interest most potential pilots is like walking into a catholic church and suggesting that virgin mary got pregnant through casual sex.
I do take the point about both sexes being concerned about a decrepit looking plane. However there is still a strong factor in what in general men are willing to put up with compared to women. Ask anyone who tries to run a business with say 50+ people, in really tatty and dirty premises. It is far harder to recruit women who will work there. Most just turn up their nose and go for a job in a building society which has just spent £10k on carpets and vertical venetian blinds and where there is good chit-chat with other girlz.
Trying to say - ON PPRUNE OF ALL PLACES - that today's GA fleet is too decrepit to interest most potential pilots is like walking into a catholic church and suggesting that virgin mary got pregnant through casual sex.
I do take the point about both sexes being concerned about a decrepit looking plane. However there is still a strong factor in what in general men are willing to put up with compared to women. Ask anyone who tries to run a business with say 50+ people, in really tatty and dirty premises. It is far harder to recruit women who will work there. Most just turn up their nose and go for a job in a building society which has just spent £10k on carpets and vertical venetian blinds and where there is good chit-chat with other girlz.
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According to insurance companies, horse riding is MORE RISKY than...just about anything.
I think that it is fair to say that while horse riding is more likely to result in an accident, if an accident does occur in an aircraft, it is more likely to be fatal. Horse riding accidents typically result in broken bones, spinal damage, and brain injuries ... outright deaths are relatively rare. Of course, severe injuries often result in substantially higher damages than do fatalities.
Ah, ha. I would be able to supply sworn affadavits from acquaintances over the years that I am both spineless and brainless; thereby protecting me from two-thirds of the injuries associated with horse riding.
That should bring the premiums down.
That should bring the premiums down.
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I have to say that I to am bewildered by the state of the aircraft that the average PPL will rent and it is a problem to those of us who are trying to offer a quality product.
I can't do anything about the age of the aircraft ( Mr cessna don't make new 152's) But up to date radios . new paint , new leather seats and new carpets are all part of the game plan along with fast rectification of ALL defects and proper maintenance.
The big problem is that most PPL's seem to want to rent the cheapest heap of
that they can ,I'v seen aircraft that are full of ageing inop radios tattered seats and carpets that smell like two week old boiled cabbage that clearly have had only the very least amount of maintenance but when you try to offer a quality product for a mear £5/hour more every one runs a mile and shouts that you are ripping them off !.
My public is slowly coming round to my way of thinking but it is no wonder that most of you cant get a woman to go flying with you after all would you turn up on a date in a 1974 capri with original paint and upholstery that had been water soaked over the years to the point of suporting some sort of pond life and expect to get a bonk at the end of the evening ?.....I think not !.
The women are to wise !! put your hands in your pockets and rent quality aircraft and life will become safer and more interesting to the opposite sex !.
I can't do anything about the age of the aircraft ( Mr cessna don't make new 152's) But up to date radios . new paint , new leather seats and new carpets are all part of the game plan along with fast rectification of ALL defects and proper maintenance.
The big problem is that most PPL's seem to want to rent the cheapest heap of
that they can ,I'v seen aircraft that are full of ageing inop radios tattered seats and carpets that smell like two week old boiled cabbage that clearly have had only the very least amount of maintenance but when you try to offer a quality product for a mear £5/hour more every one runs a mile and shouts that you are ripping them off !. My public is slowly coming round to my way of thinking but it is no wonder that most of you cant get a woman to go flying with you after all would you turn up on a date in a 1974 capri with original paint and upholstery that had been water soaked over the years to the point of suporting some sort of pond life and expect to get a bonk at the end of the evening ?.....I think not !.
The women are to wise !! put your hands in your pockets and rent quality aircraft and life will become safer and more interesting to the opposite sex !.
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I'd love to have access to the type of aircraft you describe A and C ... where are you??
Don't suppose you do anything other than 152's? A 4 seater with everything working would be great
Don't suppose you do anything other than 152's? A 4 seater with everything working would be great
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My wife will fly in most aircraft and is keen on dressage but when I suggested a flight on this - I got that withering look that so many of my suggestions for trying something new in life, seem to get nowadays.
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I have to say that I to am bewildered by the state of the aircraft that the average PPL will rent and it is a problem to those of us who are trying to offer a quality product.
A and C's car analogy is not very apt: the daily rental for a mid-sized 2005 model car is less than the hourly rental for almost any airplane, new or old. It is an unfortunate but undeniable fact that for most renter pilots, money is an issue ... and it's not surprising that many people prefer to spend their limited funds renting a shabby-but-serviceable C-172N for ten hours, rather than renting a new C-172R for seven.
