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Well done, Bob. Seems like a good day all round then?
Yeah, the traffic was fun although I suppose that in Newcastle you kind of get used to extended downwinds and orbits. Must say the ATC was excellent, he anticipated everything and got me a virtual clear round.
Yeah, the traffic was fun although I suppose that in Newcastle you kind of get used to extended downwinds and orbits. Must say the ATC was excellent, he anticipated everything and got me a virtual clear round.
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Paul - I am made up for you, having followed your progress. I remember when you were stressed out over things, and look at you now! Well done, and keep up the good work! 
Bob - can I be cheeky and ask for a writeup on your GFT ?
FINALLY done my solo northern nav yesterday, you can expect a full writeup this evening!
Cheers all,
Lee
Bob - can I be cheeky and ask for a writeup on your GFT ?
FINALLY done my solo northern nav yesterday, you can expect a full writeup this evening!
Cheers all,
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Thanks for your helpful comments folks. On reflection, I think I was a bit tired after a late night up with my young son and a bit stressed out awaiting the results of an interview at work, not to mention the weather.
Whirly, I was very interested in your experience. I hope I develop that kind of intuition too!
Anyway, just back from a short holiday. Booked to fly next Friday, so here's hoping!
HH
Whirly, I was very interested in your experience. I hope I develop that kind of intuition too!
Anyway, just back from a short holiday. Booked to fly next Friday, so here's hoping!
HH
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Sorry for the late post people, been up the wall in uni 
Today's flight, was again met with uncertainty about the weather, wondering all day whether or not I would be flying. I completed the flight plan at around 1200 on that day and was due to fly at 1630 (problem number one). So, having arrived at the flying school early on, the wind appeared to be the same at 2000 feet, therefore, no need to change the plan. However, the TAF appeared to be showing a drop in the wind, which was slowly becoming southerly.
My instructor went up to do a circuit or two with another student, to assess the weather, and to see if all the CB clouds that had been hanging around all day, had gone. He landed and said it was all looking good. I was quite up for this, somewhat tense, as I had been thinking about it for some time, and the last two times I had done it dual, weren't exactly perfect! So, I went out to the aircraft and checked her out, having started the internal checks, I wasn't too happy with the PTT (press to talk) switch on my controls - when you press it down, it appeared to stick and only slowly came back up. I was concerned of a resulting radio failure during the flight, and it was agreed that it would only sit at the back of my mind if I flew, and possibly distract me from the task ahead. So, I asked if could use another aircraft, which actually didn't have enough fuel in it, so we had to fill her up!
I finally got sat down and ready for departure for a quick circuit with my instructor, just to refresh and check the wind. I performed a greaser, which was a good start to the evening, especially having not flown for a bit. So, back to that old feeling of watching him leave the aircraft and having an empty seat next to me (great for putting all your charts/paperwork on
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I was to fly out of Seaforth and straight across to Leyland (if you have a look on your chart, Leyland is East of Warton, and has the M6 cross a train track, this was my turning point, at the southern tip of Leyland). Upon tracking Leyland, I was to fly just south of Ormskirk, and have Burscough aerodrome to my left. It turned out that I was right over Ormskirk, and this resulted in me saying to myself "where the hell is Ormskirk?". I got onto Warton as soon as possible, and can't thank them enough. The guy was great - he gave me a FIS and stated he couldn't give me radar, as he had some kind of American system (something along those lines). It had actually passed 1730 and was surprised to see him so busy, with a busy circuit and lots of aircraft in the vicinity. He asked me if I could remain south of the zone (which I would do anyway) and tell me when at Southport pier (this is only fractionally inside the southern left tip of Warton). Even though this was a FIS, I still gave him my headings for practice, and for better understanding of my position and track etc.
At this point, I knew my headings were not going to work, as the wind had clearly changed direction a little, and dropped. I could see Leyland up ahead, however it is similar to Preston and was a little confusing at first. When I arrived at Leyland, I could see Preston was further north, and that I was at the southern tip - but for some reason I couldn't quite see the motorway join the rail - probably just my eye couldn't catch it at the time. So anyway, I turned left and headed for the pier, receiving constant traffic advice etc. I was at 2300 feet and he told me to remain at that height until I was heading for the pier, in which he asked could I climb to 2500 to fly over his circuit traffic, I did climb, knowing that another 100 feet and I would bust Manchester, so I had to keep it tight. At this point my headings were about 10 degrees out - so as this was a navigation exercise, I estimated new one and flew them (cheating a little as I could see where I was going). Tracking south of the Ribble River, also made things easier, but still I couldn't get too close, as I was on the border of the MATZ.
Upon turning Southport, I thanked him and asked to switch back to Liverpool, knowing that in less than 4 mins I hit Kirkby and in that time I need to get ATIS, possibly call Woodvale, and call for rejoin at Liverpool. He asked me to stay, for another minute or so, as he did have traffic in my vicinity. The controller at Warton was very good indeed, and he looked after me very well, he wont be reading this but THANK YOU anyway, excellent
Woodvale were closed, so I didn't call them, I considered transmitting blind, but knowing I still had a lot of work to do, and the fact that I could clearly see Woodvale and remain clear of it, had made up my mind to go straight to Liverpool approach. I started tracking for Kirkby, again on the heading I had calculated at first, synchronising the DI. It was again, great to be able to fly straight over my house, when tracking Kirkby. The smoke at Kirkby wasn't on today (there is a steam tower which can be seen for miles - this is the VRP) so it was more difficult to spot, amongst all the buildings and industrial area. At this point, there was an aircraft ahead of me, and one behind me and the zone was getting packed with lots of traffic. I kid you not, I was asked to orbit Tarbuck Island, and luckily he told me what it was - where the M62 meets the M57 - (otherwise I was lost) I was here for about 15 mins - my left side started to ache after so much orbiting. However, I just relaxed, kept a good lookout for the aircraft that was coming my way, and watched the game of football going on beneath me! I was very close to Knowsley Safari Park also, which is a nice sight from above.
Eventually, I was given the clearance to Jaguar as usual, and was the greeted with a 17 knot wind to tackle. On short final, I asked for a wind check again, and it was slightly off the runway, but going straight enough for me to perform a good landing.
In conclusion - I was extremely happy with my RT today, as it went well and felt better using the radios. I need to do the flight plan, a little closer to the flight, as my headings were slightly wrong, and I need to work on this trust relationship between me and the headings to fly - otherwise, when I fly my QXC and cant SEE my destination - I am
Thanks again for reading,
Lee
Today's flight, was again met with uncertainty about the weather, wondering all day whether or not I would be flying. I completed the flight plan at around 1200 on that day and was due to fly at 1630 (problem number one). So, having arrived at the flying school early on, the wind appeared to be the same at 2000 feet, therefore, no need to change the plan. However, the TAF appeared to be showing a drop in the wind, which was slowly becoming southerly.
My instructor went up to do a circuit or two with another student, to assess the weather, and to see if all the CB clouds that had been hanging around all day, had gone. He landed and said it was all looking good. I was quite up for this, somewhat tense, as I had been thinking about it for some time, and the last two times I had done it dual, weren't exactly perfect! So, I went out to the aircraft and checked her out, having started the internal checks, I wasn't too happy with the PTT (press to talk) switch on my controls - when you press it down, it appeared to stick and only slowly came back up. I was concerned of a resulting radio failure during the flight, and it was agreed that it would only sit at the back of my mind if I flew, and possibly distract me from the task ahead. So, I asked if could use another aircraft, which actually didn't have enough fuel in it, so we had to fill her up!
I finally got sat down and ready for departure for a quick circuit with my instructor, just to refresh and check the wind. I performed a greaser, which was a good start to the evening, especially having not flown for a bit. So, back to that old feeling of watching him leave the aircraft and having an empty seat next to me (great for putting all your charts/paperwork on
)I was to fly out of Seaforth and straight across to Leyland (if you have a look on your chart, Leyland is East of Warton, and has the M6 cross a train track, this was my turning point, at the southern tip of Leyland). Upon tracking Leyland, I was to fly just south of Ormskirk, and have Burscough aerodrome to my left. It turned out that I was right over Ormskirk, and this resulted in me saying to myself "where the hell is Ormskirk?". I got onto Warton as soon as possible, and can't thank them enough. The guy was great - he gave me a FIS and stated he couldn't give me radar, as he had some kind of American system (something along those lines). It had actually passed 1730 and was surprised to see him so busy, with a busy circuit and lots of aircraft in the vicinity. He asked me if I could remain south of the zone (which I would do anyway) and tell me when at Southport pier (this is only fractionally inside the southern left tip of Warton). Even though this was a FIS, I still gave him my headings for practice, and for better understanding of my position and track etc.
At this point, I knew my headings were not going to work, as the wind had clearly changed direction a little, and dropped. I could see Leyland up ahead, however it is similar to Preston and was a little confusing at first. When I arrived at Leyland, I could see Preston was further north, and that I was at the southern tip - but for some reason I couldn't quite see the motorway join the rail - probably just my eye couldn't catch it at the time. So anyway, I turned left and headed for the pier, receiving constant traffic advice etc. I was at 2300 feet and he told me to remain at that height until I was heading for the pier, in which he asked could I climb to 2500 to fly over his circuit traffic, I did climb, knowing that another 100 feet and I would bust Manchester, so I had to keep it tight. At this point my headings were about 10 degrees out - so as this was a navigation exercise, I estimated new one and flew them (cheating a little as I could see where I was going). Tracking south of the Ribble River, also made things easier, but still I couldn't get too close, as I was on the border of the MATZ.
Upon turning Southport, I thanked him and asked to switch back to Liverpool, knowing that in less than 4 mins I hit Kirkby and in that time I need to get ATIS, possibly call Woodvale, and call for rejoin at Liverpool. He asked me to stay, for another minute or so, as he did have traffic in my vicinity. The controller at Warton was very good indeed, and he looked after me very well, he wont be reading this but THANK YOU anyway, excellent
Woodvale were closed, so I didn't call them, I considered transmitting blind, but knowing I still had a lot of work to do, and the fact that I could clearly see Woodvale and remain clear of it, had made up my mind to go straight to Liverpool approach. I started tracking for Kirkby, again on the heading I had calculated at first, synchronising the DI. It was again, great to be able to fly straight over my house, when tracking Kirkby. The smoke at Kirkby wasn't on today (there is a steam tower which can be seen for miles - this is the VRP) so it was more difficult to spot, amongst all the buildings and industrial area. At this point, there was an aircraft ahead of me, and one behind me and the zone was getting packed with lots of traffic. I kid you not, I was asked to orbit Tarbuck Island, and luckily he told me what it was - where the M62 meets the M57 - (otherwise I was lost) I was here for about 15 mins - my left side started to ache after so much orbiting. However, I just relaxed, kept a good lookout for the aircraft that was coming my way, and watched the game of football going on beneath me! I was very close to Knowsley Safari Park also, which is a nice sight from above.
Eventually, I was given the clearance to Jaguar as usual, and was the greeted with a 17 knot wind to tackle. On short final, I asked for a wind check again, and it was slightly off the runway, but going straight enough for me to perform a good landing.
In conclusion - I was extremely happy with my RT today, as it went well and felt better using the radios. I need to do the flight plan, a little closer to the flight, as my headings were slightly wrong, and I need to work on this trust relationship between me and the headings to fly - otherwise, when I fly my QXC and cant SEE my destination - I am
Thanks again for reading,
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Blimey Lee, that sounds awfully confusing. I have only done a fly away to Carlisle and haven't started my Nav at all so this sounds rather complicated.
I'm looking forward to the Nav bit of my training, just hope it sinks in quickly!!!
Great stuff though, keep it up.
I'm looking forward to the Nav bit of my training, just hope it sinks in quickly!!!
Great stuff though, keep it up.
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Paul - your thoughts were exactly the same as mine were a while ago - don't get me wrong, it is hard going, but you will be writing the same soon !
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On "intuition"....
Maybe that's what it is. Or maybe I picked up on little weather signs, but just couldn't quite put into words what was making me anxious. We all learn more, with experience, and sometimes we don't realise quite what we're learning.
And you will too, HH.
Maybe that's what it is. Or maybe I picked up on little weather signs, but just couldn't quite put into words what was making me anxious. We all learn more, with experience, and sometimes we don't realise quite what we're learning.
And you will too, HH.
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That's the beauty about flying - the sense of uncertainty and adventure before you take off. Do you still feel that excitement when you have hundred's or thousands of hours?
I have to confess, I am slightly over the moon, as Liverpool have just beat Chelsea, so apologies to all you Chelsea fans
(not)
I have just been reading over my diary tonight, from page 1 and it is crazy some of the stuff I have written! It's actually a good laugh seeing what I have put down, and is hard to take in some of the stuff I said, especially when I was going on about the fear of RT - I just put it into MS Word tonight, and my own diary posts alone, reached 28,000 words, far more than any assignment, or project I have ever written, by far
I would again like to thank you all that have made this a successful post, please keep up the good work,
Regards,
Lee
I have to confess, I am slightly over the moon, as Liverpool have just beat Chelsea, so apologies to all you Chelsea fans
(not) I have just been reading over my diary tonight, from page 1 and it is crazy some of the stuff I have written! It's actually a good laugh seeing what I have put down, and is hard to take in some of the stuff I said, especially when I was going on about the fear of RT - I just put it into MS Word tonight, and my own diary posts alone, reached 28,000 words, far more than any assignment, or project I have ever written, by far
I would again like to thank you all that have made this a successful post, please keep up the good work,
Regards,
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I went up today for the first time in 10 days. I'm stuck at 2hr 35mins solo consolidation, and cannot get the other 25 mins to date 'cos of the weather on each subsequent lesson. Today was unbelievably turbulant, the little Warrior being thrown around all over the place, causing various expletives from self and instructor!! We were in the circuits, and at 1000', at the mercy of the weather! It was more like my old rallying days with armfuls of "opposite lock", and I earned a "well held" from the Boss when caught with one particularly violent gust. On one landing, we encountered quite bad windshear over the M1, the plane sinking rapidly, and then rising again sharply just as I shoved in some throttle!! We called and reported it to ATC, and our message was picked up by an Easyjet 737 landing behind us. When he landed, he too confirmed considerable windshear, and called it as "fun"!!
The strange thing was the wind was not too strong, pretty well on the nose, and16/20 knots - it was however, full of 'speedbumps, shoves and shusses!!'. We did various approaches, flapless, glide etc, and it was all good experience, but I did make a bad mistake on one landing, when I was told to "get it down on the numbers, not before or after....." As we came over the Motorway, we encountered the windshear, and this left me too high - in a sort of automatic reflex, as if I had a subconscious mindset that I would get the thing down on the numbers at all costs, I stupidly shoved the nose down - luckily, the boss retrieved the situation, otherwise I may well have touched down nosewheel first - not good!! This was hopefully a one off but a good lesson learned nevertheless.
I'm now beginning to wrestle with the Pooleys "whizzwheel" - it's as clear as mud to me at the moment, but I'll soon get used to it hopefully. Did a short nav the other day - EMA - Leicester - Nuneaton - Leicester - EMA. It was great to be away from EGNX, and from the circuits. Hopefully, we'll be doing more from here in.
Happy and safe flying all.....
The strange thing was the wind was not too strong, pretty well on the nose, and16/20 knots - it was however, full of 'speedbumps, shoves and shusses!!'. We did various approaches, flapless, glide etc, and it was all good experience, but I did make a bad mistake on one landing, when I was told to "get it down on the numbers, not before or after....." As we came over the Motorway, we encountered the windshear, and this left me too high - in a sort of automatic reflex, as if I had a subconscious mindset that I would get the thing down on the numbers at all costs, I stupidly shoved the nose down - luckily, the boss retrieved the situation, otherwise I may well have touched down nosewheel first - not good!! This was hopefully a one off but a good lesson learned nevertheless.
I'm now beginning to wrestle with the Pooleys "whizzwheel" - it's as clear as mud to me at the moment, but I'll soon get used to it hopefully. Did a short nav the other day - EMA - Leicester - Nuneaton - Leicester - EMA. It was great to be away from EGNX, and from the circuits. Hopefully, we'll be doing more from here in.
Happy and safe flying all.....
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I NO LIKEE!!!
Many (many!) years ago as a teenager on holiday in Newquay, Cornwall, myself, and three others decided to climb up the cliffs from the beach, some 100' high (though later to feel like 1000'!), to a golf course on the top. About 20 feet from safety, the rock turned to soil, which readily pulled away, not allowing any hand/foot hold. We were stuck, not able to go up or down!!. A crowd gathered, much shouting ensued. We were finally rescued by a golf course greensman, who lowered a doubled up hosepipe from the top down to us, and we were pulled up one by one, barely able to hold on any longer. I will never forget however, the feeling of the hosepipe stretching under my weight.
From that day to this, I have suffered from vertigo. I cannot go near the edge of a balcony on a high building for example, and really struggle to climb a ladder to reach the eaves of the house. Neither can I cope with the "stress" of a decent roller coaster, though strangely, I have no problem with flying - I guess it's a "security" thing - I cannot fall out of a commercial airliner!!
Neither do I have any problem with flying a light aircraft like the Warrior on which I'm learning, and can happily look down from the cockpit. HOWEVER, I found out something that I really struggled with yesterday - steep turns!! I just did not like it one bit. I was VERY uncomfortable with it as the instructor demonstrated turns up to around 75 degrees - it was the old roller coaster fear again!! Then it was my turn - I'm not one to duck a challenge, so I went for it and luckily, I had much less of a "problem" with 60 degree turns when it was me at the controls. I was nevertheless considerably relieved when it was all over, and very happy to hear that in the skills test, I will only have to demonstrate 45 degree turns - they were no real problem at all.
I know some of you just love the thrills of spins etc, but it is a nightmare for me - a real phobia. Next time I'm up (Tuesday), I hope the weather will allow me to finish the last 25 minutes of my solo consolidation, but if not, I'm going to get back up for some more steep turns, to try to overcome my fear of them. A pal of mine is a very experienced CPL (flies a $1million Malibu), and he told me he has the same problem with steep turns - hates them, so at least I'm not alone!!
In my second lesson yesterday, I did my second navigation exercise - now I really enjoyed that . All went pretty well, though I had some difficulty in spotting the disused airfield which was at one turning point. It had no runways left, nor any buildings, and I could only just make out the "shadows" of the old runways under the grass. Sneaky, that one!
Oh, and finally, will I ever get a day with no turbulance?
Safe flying all....
From that day to this, I have suffered from vertigo. I cannot go near the edge of a balcony on a high building for example, and really struggle to climb a ladder to reach the eaves of the house. Neither can I cope with the "stress" of a decent roller coaster, though strangely, I have no problem with flying - I guess it's a "security" thing - I cannot fall out of a commercial airliner!!
Neither do I have any problem with flying a light aircraft like the Warrior on which I'm learning, and can happily look down from the cockpit. HOWEVER, I found out something that I really struggled with yesterday - steep turns!! I just did not like it one bit. I was VERY uncomfortable with it as the instructor demonstrated turns up to around 75 degrees - it was the old roller coaster fear again!! Then it was my turn - I'm not one to duck a challenge, so I went for it and luckily, I had much less of a "problem" with 60 degree turns when it was me at the controls. I was nevertheless considerably relieved when it was all over, and very happy to hear that in the skills test, I will only have to demonstrate 45 degree turns - they were no real problem at all.
I know some of you just love the thrills of spins etc, but it is a nightmare for me - a real phobia. Next time I'm up (Tuesday), I hope the weather will allow me to finish the last 25 minutes of my solo consolidation, but if not, I'm going to get back up for some more steep turns, to try to overcome my fear of them. A pal of mine is a very experienced CPL (flies a $1million Malibu), and he told me he has the same problem with steep turns - hates them, so at least I'm not alone!!
In my second lesson yesterday, I did my second navigation exercise - now I really enjoyed that . All went pretty well, though I had some difficulty in spotting the disused airfield which was at one turning point. It had no runways left, nor any buildings, and I could only just make out the "shadows" of the old runways under the grass. Sneaky, that one!
Oh, and finally, will I ever get a day with no turbulance?
Safe flying all....
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Join the club. My first steep turns made me feel really 'giddy' and I found that looking inside at the controls made it slightly better. The second time I was told to keep the left corner of the nose on the horizon and I thought I'd be ill doing that. Surprisingly I wasn't and in fact I sort of got used to it after a couple of turns.
Got to admit though, I don't like them but I can do it without being sick...just a funny green looking.
Got to admit though, I don't like them but I can do it without being sick...just a funny green looking.
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I don't like them either. Or spins, or stalls, or aerobatics. I like to fly in straight lines on a nice day over beautiful countryside to another airfield, and do the same thing going home again. Boring, that's me. 
Helicopters are different; I like to play in them, but still nothing too exciting please.
Let's face it, when are you going to actually need a steep turn? Rarely. The only time I can think of is if you need to turn sharply to avoid another aircraft that's appeared out of nowhere. So make sure you can do them....then keep a good lookout and you won't ever have to.
Helicopters are different; I like to play in them, but still nothing too exciting please.Let's face it, when are you going to actually need a steep turn? Rarely. The only time I can think of is if you need to turn sharply to avoid another aircraft that's appeared out of nowhere. So make sure you can do them....then keep a good lookout and you won't ever have to.
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Let's face it, when are you going to actually need a steep turn?
You then need to do a steep orbit between two vertical rock walls whilst the punter changes the film, or you did before the days of digital cameras.
Contrary to how PPL students are taught to do steep turns this pilot reduced power "to tighten up the turn" (so that he could remain between the rock walls).
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GTW I remember that one, you must have bricked it
Personally I am ok with steep turns, it is weird whilst performing a left turn, you see the instructor (or whoever your with) way way above you, and viceversa when turning right - strange
Personally I am ok with steep turns, it is weird whilst performing a left turn, you see the instructor (or whoever your with) way way above you, and viceversa when turning right - strange
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For the sadistic : Steep turns/unusual attitudes at night in cloud.
Been there ,done it ,not nice, I still feel sick at the thought.
If we were meant to fly we would have feathers (it is fun though)
Long time no see Happyeater how you doing ?
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Been there ,done it ,not nice, I still feel sick at the thought.
If we were meant to fly we would have feathers (it is fun though)
Long time no see Happyeater how you doing ?
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Doing really well thank you, GonTek. Working hard and enjoying my flying. Just a shame my footy team is making me suffer!!
Cracking on with the lessons and have just passed the Met to go along with the Air Law, Nav is next but looks quite a hard read. Luckily, Ground School is starting up in Newcastle over the next few weeks so that will do nicely and compliment that big green book.
Got a lesson tomorrow and another Saturday. Just hope for decent weather for solo consolidation.
Hope you're well?
Cracking on with the lessons and have just passed the Met to go along with the Air Law, Nav is next but looks quite a hard read. Luckily, Ground School is starting up in Newcastle over the next few weeks so that will do nicely and compliment that big green book.
Got a lesson tomorrow and another Saturday. Just hope for decent weather for solo consolidation.
Hope you're well?
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Happyeater :
Yes doing fine thanks,Nice to see your lessons are going well.
I found the Met & Nav the most testing it's a long time since I attended school.
Chk your pm.
Ace thread Mazzy ,Glad you had the balls to start it.
Learn well and fly safe all..
Yes doing fine thanks,Nice to see your lessons are going well.
I found the Met & Nav the most testing it's a long time since I attended school.
Chk your pm.
Ace thread Mazzy ,Glad you had the balls to start it.
Learn well and fly safe all..
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Good lesson last Friday. Didn't do any solo, but got out of the circuit at last for re-acquaintance with the local area and to start PFLs. I'm amazed how much I'd forgotten about flying out of the circuit after months of going around in circles! The lesson was punctuated by my instructor's comments: 'What the hell was that?'; 'NO! You know you don't level off like that'; 'Where are you now?'; 'That's not how you take off from the grass runway' and so on!
Having said that, I was pleased with my first PFL attempts but worried that I had forgotten the circuit off our grass runway. I really must get down to that NAV exam
Glad to see the weather's improving and we're all getting more flying.
HH
Having said that, I was pleased with my first PFL attempts but worried that I had forgotten the circuit off our grass runway. I really must get down to that NAV exam
Glad to see the weather's improving and we're all getting more flying.
HH