Light aircraft missing near WAL
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Light aircraft missing near WAL
There are reports of a light aircraft which has crashed just off the wirral coast near WAL. Police helicopter and Islander are searching the area ceefax has reported that there are 2 people on board. No other details as yet. 
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From: Brighton. UK. (Via Liverpool).
Anyone got anymore on this?. I know a lot of aviators up there
Just found this.........
BBC news.
Just found this.........
Rescue teams search for aircraft
Search and rescue teams are looking for a light aircraft that is believed to have crashed in Liverpool Bay.
Police received reports that a plane was in trouble two miles off the Wirral coast, just north of Wallasey, at about 1245 BST on Sunday.
Officers believe there were two passengers on board the aircraft at the time of the accident.
An RAF helicopter, lifeboat crews and police helicopters were searching the area for signs of wreckage.
Piper Cherokee
Wirral Beach Patrol, Liverpool lifeboat, Hoylake lifeboat and Hoylake Coastguard Rescue Team are also joining the search.
Peter Shillingwall, operations manager at New Brighton Lifeboat station, said crews were at the scene within five minutes, as they were holding an open day.
"The coastguard alerted me at 1243, saying that an aircraft was down two miles north of Wallasey," he said.
"We saw a pleasure aircraft flying overhead so we were on the scene in four to five minutes."
Liverpool Coastguard say the plane is a Piper PA28 Cherokee light aircraft.
Search and rescue teams are looking for a light aircraft that is believed to have crashed in Liverpool Bay.
Police received reports that a plane was in trouble two miles off the Wirral coast, just north of Wallasey, at about 1245 BST on Sunday.
Officers believe there were two passengers on board the aircraft at the time of the accident.
An RAF helicopter, lifeboat crews and police helicopters were searching the area for signs of wreckage.
Piper Cherokee
Wirral Beach Patrol, Liverpool lifeboat, Hoylake lifeboat and Hoylake Coastguard Rescue Team are also joining the search.
Peter Shillingwall, operations manager at New Brighton Lifeboat station, said crews were at the scene within five minutes, as they were holding an open day.
"The coastguard alerted me at 1243, saying that an aircraft was down two miles north of Wallasey," he said.
"We saw a pleasure aircraft flying overhead so we were on the scene in four to five minutes."
Liverpool Coastguard say the plane is a Piper PA28 Cherokee light aircraft.
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I have just been informed that the aircraft involved was a LPL based PA28. My thoughts go out to all family and friends to those inolved in this tragic accident.
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I was in Liverpool today, arrived about an hour after it happened.
I understand that they made a pan call due to a rough running engine, and then shortly after a mayday when it quit.
I heard on frequency when returning to Dublin, around 6pm, that the wreckage had been found.
Very sad, and very sobering as I headed back across the Irish sea myself.
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I understand that they made a pan call due to a rough running engine, and then shortly after a mayday when it quit.
I heard on frequency when returning to Dublin, around 6pm, that the wreckage had been found.
Very sad, and very sobering as I headed back across the Irish sea myself.
dp
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From the BBC:
Their identities have not yet been released, but they were a couple in their 50s who lived in St Helens, Merseyside.
The man was a member of Cheshire Air Training School and was a frequent flyer from Liverpool airport with his wife.
'Wonderful company'
Roderick Geeson, from Cheshire Air Training School, said: "We're obviously very upset to hear of the death of our friends.
"They were very private people but wonderful company, he having been an active member of the flying club for over 10 years.
"They always came along to social functions, but he lived to fly. It was simply his passion in life and he would frequently come along to enjoy an afternoon's flying, with his wife accompanying him.
"They will both be sadly missed by all of us."
The man was a member of Cheshire Air Training School and was a frequent flyer from Liverpool airport with his wife.
'Wonderful company'
Roderick Geeson, from Cheshire Air Training School, said: "We're obviously very upset to hear of the death of our friends.
"They were very private people but wonderful company, he having been an active member of the flying club for over 10 years.
"They always came along to social functions, but he lived to fly. It was simply his passion in life and he would frequently come along to enjoy an afternoon's flying, with his wife accompanying him.
"They will both be sadly missed by all of us."
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The couple have been named now and i am very sad to say that i know the pilot Martin Gardener who perished along with his wife Nora.I had the pleasure of doing some private flying with Martin a number of years ago.He was a real gentleman of the first order.He will be sadly missed.God bless him and his wife Nora and give strenght to there familys during this very tragic time.
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This link adds a new dimension, I am not going to comment on the sad ending to what could be totaly innocent.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...de/3882457.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...de/3882457.stm
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News of the World ran a piece on it this morning. Wasn't there a Cessna that went down last year of the south coast flown by someone else being investigated for child porn?
It is a sad sign of our times.
It is a sad sign of our times.
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Some points to consider:
The aircraft concerned force landed in a field in Shropshire some 6 weeks or so ago with "engine problems"
It was checked out by engineers who could find nothing wrong with it.
It was returned to the flying school & put back into service.
Shortly after which it crashes into the Mersey.
I was on duty that day but on a break during the incident. I have listened to the tapes & certain transmissions were made by the pilot to indicate he had a serious problem.
Go figure.
2 people are dead.
Just leave it alone eh folks? All will come out in the wash eventually.
The aircraft concerned force landed in a field in Shropshire some 6 weeks or so ago with "engine problems"
It was checked out by engineers who could find nothing wrong with it.
It was returned to the flying school & put back into service.
Shortly after which it crashes into the Mersey.
I was on duty that day but on a break during the incident. I have listened to the tapes & certain transmissions were made by the pilot to indicate he had a serious problem.
Go figure.
2 people are dead.
Just leave it alone eh folks? All will come out in the wash eventually.
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Not sure what your point is there squibbler, no one was anylysing the crash. In fact the topic had moved onto other incidents.
And things come out in the wash by discussion, so maybe you should get of your high horse eh?
People die all the time.
And things come out in the wash by discussion, so maybe you should get of your high horse eh?
People die all the time.
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No Bose x you weren't analysing the crash were you?
You were jumping on the the "ooooh he was being investigated for child porn; did he do himself in?" bandwagon.
I was simply trying to point out there is a history which suggests a possible underlying defect with the aircraft which may have contributed to the incident. Allied to that are RT recordings which strongly suggest the pilot was in serious difficulty.
I'm not surprised you failed to grasp my very simple point; you are a News of The World reader after all
Wow, you're some philosopher aren't you?
You were jumping on the the "ooooh he was being investigated for child porn; did he do himself in?" bandwagon.
I was simply trying to point out there is a history which suggests a possible underlying defect with the aircraft which may have contributed to the incident. Allied to that are RT recordings which strongly suggest the pilot was in serious difficulty.
I'm not surprised you failed to grasp my very simple point; you are a News of The World reader after all
People die all the time.
