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Old 30th Jun 2004, 16:19
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Change to Cardiff LARS frequency

WEF 1st July 2004 Cardiff LARS frequency will be 126.625MHz
and Cardiff ATIS Frequency will be 132.475MHz.

Both changes have had NOTAMs and will be incorporated in the AIP as from 8th July 2004.
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Thank you for heads-up; I may be needing that this weekend!

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These always fascinate me. I wonder what happened to make the change necessary.

Sahfen' was 128.95 App, 119.70 Twr when I were a lad. Now it's 130.77 and 127.72 if I remember right. No idea why it needed to change.

Or is there some sneaky psychological battle going on to confuse us oldies?
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Directorate of Airspace Policy (DAP) are behind these changes, also the LARS frequency now has a protected range of 40 miles whereas before it didn't extend that far . Does that help ?
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Flower,

So does the increased protected range mean you can now offer me a RIS all the way to Kemble for the rally?
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Another change to the Lars frequency whist I'm in Florida - happened last year!!!

Last time our ATIS Frequency changed was because the previous ATIS frequency was given to Bournemouth Approach... so is this the case again? Another field gaining an approach frequency?

Just wait until the new Servernside CTA is implemented. This is actually good news if approved and implemented for us as the Airways will be Class D instead of Class A around Cardiff, the other bases will be quite high and the controllers are all fantastic at Cardiff and will allow GA a/c into the airspace unlike other places we can mention.

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Old 1st Jul 2004, 18:07
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Mariner9 I think Filton would have something to say if I gave you a RIS all the way to kemble

Cheers Charlie Zulu we try our best and yes the Severn Control Area will mean a large block of Class D airspace but it isn't to surface level so still loads of Class G don't worry
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Mariner9 I think Filton would have something to say if I gave you a RIS all the way to kemble
Especially as Filton will have radar open on the Saturday for our own families / air day.
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I heard yesterday that the new LARS frequency would come into effect a week late as they were having a few technical problems, anyone heard the same?
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Old 2nd Jul 2004, 08:37
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Yep - it's still 124.1 for the moment

Anyway - you shouldn't be telling anyone to call Cardiff (not during the week anyway )
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Well I fly from both Cardiff and Filton, and ATC at both is superb.

But competition between ATC's would be healthy in my view:


Cardiff: "G-XXXX, offer FIS"
Filton: "G-XXXX, raise that to a RIS"
Cardiff: "G-XXXX, raise that to a RAS"
Filton: "G-XXXX, raise that to Royal Flight status"





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Old 2nd Jul 2004, 15:33
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Yes amazing isn't it the Crystals need retuning, seem to remember they said exactly the same thing to us last year when they tried to bring in this frequency.

Ummm Chilli why can't they call us ??
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Flower dearest

Because a) we're nearer and b) they keep on sticking them out straight across the nose of my RADNO deps and anything else I've got northbound towards Brum / Shawbury direction!

(It gets quite amusing trying to avoid and co-ordinate against the 36** squawk which Cardiff can't actually see as it's outside your cover )
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Aha,
I understand now you were referring to EGBB, gotcha




PS we can see them just not officially, can see North of Brum almost to Dublin, beyond Bournemouth and Plymouth
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