Baby in a 172
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Baby in a 172
Am I barmy to consider putting my 6-month-old in a car seat in the back seat of a 172? He's not easily scared, and loves the outside of aircraft (especially with the engine running) from behind a safety fence...
Problems I forsee:
(a) ear protection;
(b) ear popping (feed him on the way up/down);
(c) boredom.
Anyone tried it? I don't want to put him off flying!
Tim
Problems I forsee:
(a) ear protection;
(b) ear popping (feed him on the way up/down);
(c) boredom.
Anyone tried it? I don't want to put him off flying!
Tim
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BabyEagle's first flight was when he was 3 months old in a C172. He sat in the back with his mother and basically slept during the 20 minute flight.
Second time was when he was 9 months old, he stayed awake the whole time wide eyed.
Third time was yesterday (21 months): he sat in front on mother's lap and even held the yoke during cruise, pointing out at clouds oohing and aahing.
Regarding your questions I suppose it depends on the length of the flight: if it were more than 20 minutes I would consider ear protection.
In climbs and descents I have not exceeded 500fpm: make sure he doesn't have a cold. If he does experience sore ears he'll start crying and that will/should automatically clear his ears.
Boredom shouldn't be an issue: all the small kids I've taken flying after a while haven fallen asleep.
BabyEagle spent the rest of yesterday afternoon saying "aero - aero" and wanted to go back to the airport.
AE.
Please note, I'm not a doctor and the above is just my personal experience with my son.
Second time was when he was 9 months old, he stayed awake the whole time wide eyed.
Third time was yesterday (21 months): he sat in front on mother's lap and even held the yoke during cruise, pointing out at clouds oohing and aahing.
Regarding your questions I suppose it depends on the length of the flight: if it were more than 20 minutes I would consider ear protection.
In climbs and descents I have not exceeded 500fpm: make sure he doesn't have a cold. If he does experience sore ears he'll start crying and that will/should automatically clear his ears.
Boredom shouldn't be an issue: all the small kids I've taken flying after a while haven fallen asleep.
BabyEagle spent the rest of yesterday afternoon saying "aero - aero" and wanted to go back to the airport.
AE.
Please note, I'm not a doctor and the above is just my personal experience with my son.
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They don't normally tolerate earprotection very well but you can give it a go. Peltor do a coloured helping.
I very early on got the kids to wear the kiddo's version of the 13.4 just so that they can hear you which they may well find reassuring.
I very much doubt whether some exposure to the noise will make them deaf later in life, but that is a risk which I am happy to take for my own off-spring.
After all they need to have something to moan about later on!
FD
I very early on got the kids to wear the kiddo's version of the 13.4 just so that they can hear you which they may well find reassuring.
I very much doubt whether some exposure to the noise will make them deaf later in life, but that is a risk which I am happy to take for my own off-spring.
After all they need to have something to moan about later on!
FD
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You'll only have yourself to blame, FD, when they claim they didn't hear you tell them to do - or not to do - something. 
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Lily likes to fly
Here is a picture of my daughter Lily in my 182 and she has flown a few times. She was two here but is a cerebral palsy sufferer and is very much like a 3-6 month old baby (not sure if this counts) and she liked it but the kids headset was still a bit big.
She predictably sleeps most of the way (after skillfully shuffling around to remove her headset.
Then again so does my wife and 7 year old. There is usually just me left to talk to myself and this happens even on a 1 hour flight. I must be really boring.
She predictably sleeps most of the way (after skillfully shuffling around to remove her headset.
Then again so does my wife and 7 year old. There is usually just me left to talk to myself and this happens even on a 1 hour flight. I must be really boring.
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SF,
Nice picture!
T,
Ah, you would think so but I have done a randomised control study!
I can confirm that the kids from the first batch (and therefore not exposed to aircraft noise from a young age) are now very much in their teenage years and don't listen at all!
I will report back when the second lot has come to the teenage era.
FD
Nice picture!
T,
Ah, you would think so but I have done a randomised control study!
I can confirm that the kids from the first batch (and therefore not exposed to aircraft noise from a young age) are now very much in their teenage years and don't listen at all!
I will report back when the second lot has come to the teenage era.
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I first flew in a plane when i was ten days old!
my parents were in the process of moving from Detroit Michigan to Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, and i got shipped via a 747 Didn't fly again till i was 13, not because i didn't want to but because i never got the oppertunity. OC, up until 13 I was just dying to even visit an airport. I think that flight was a good thing, and flying your little baby might be too 
my parents were in the process of moving from Detroit Michigan to Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, and i got shipped via a 747 Didn't fly again till i was 13, not because i didn't want to but because i never got the oppertunity. OC, up until 13 I was just dying to even visit an airport. I think that flight was a good thing, and flying your little baby might be too
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Hi,
Want to take my 10 month old flying soon - recently bought a car seat which meets the CAA regs, but then realised that there is no diagonal belt in the back of the PA28, just a lap belt.
Don't really want to put my daughter in the front (with diagonal belt), as myself and Mrs Squadgy both have PPLs and want to share the workload, and in any case the car seat would obstruct the exit door.
Has anyone else come across this problem, and if so how did they get around it?
Want to take my 10 month old flying soon - recently bought a car seat which meets the CAA regs, but then realised that there is no diagonal belt in the back of the PA28, just a lap belt.
Don't really want to put my daughter in the front (with diagonal belt), as myself and Mrs Squadgy both have PPLs and want to share the workload, and in any case the car seat would obstruct the exit door.
Has anyone else come across this problem, and if so how did they get around it?
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S,
When I bought the seat I made sure that it was useable with a tripoint belt as well with lapbelt only.
If it is new and you still have the packaging you can try to give it back as it does not do what you intended to buy it for.
FD
When I bought the seat I made sure that it was useable with a tripoint belt as well with lapbelt only.
If it is new and you still have the packaging you can try to give it back as it does not do what you intended to buy it for.
FD
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Early days
Didn't break any records but my son was 30 days old when we flew from Heathrow to Geneva in a Swissair Caravelle (or was it a DC-9?).
The outstanding part was he travelled on his own passport, the people at Petty France were most impressed when I pitched up with an application and a photograph of a 7 day old child.
The passport photograph clearly shows my thumb sticking out from his left ear as I supported him in front of the camera.
By the time he was one year old he had flown in 707's to Johannesburg, 727's from Port Elizabeth to Cape Town and 172's between Cradock and Port Elizabeth.
In later years he worked for Swissair and jumpseated an MD-11 into Kai Tak. Lucky Bugger!
Start 'em young!
Didn't break any records but my son was 30 days old when we flew from Heathrow to Geneva in a Swissair Caravelle (or was it a DC-9?).
The outstanding part was he travelled on his own passport, the people at Petty France were most impressed when I pitched up with an application and a photograph of a 7 day old child.
The passport photograph clearly shows my thumb sticking out from his left ear as I supported him in front of the camera.
By the time he was one year old he had flown in 707's to Johannesburg, 727's from Port Elizabeth to Cape Town and 172's between Cradock and Port Elizabeth.
In later years he worked for Swissair and jumpseated an MD-11 into Kai Tak. Lucky Bugger!
Start 'em young!
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A few years back I acquired an airline-style extension seatbelt - can't remember how - and that was in use yesterday. I'm not convinced, however, that it's much good. Searching for an appropriate car seat.
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Flyin Dutch
Have spent the last couple of weekends searching for a car seat like the one you describe, without any luck. Could you tell us what make your car seat is and where you got it from?? One dealer (Halfords), said that call BS compliant seats have to have a shoulder belt???
Cheers
Squadgy
Have spent the last couple of weekends searching for a car seat like the one you describe, without any luck. Could you tell us what make your car seat is and where you got it from?? One dealer (Halfords), said that call BS compliant seats have to have a shoulder belt???
Cheers
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S,
I bought it from a Halfords in the Netherlands.
It is a Romer King Isofix. They do have a four point harness (fixed to the child seat) but the seat itself can be attached with either a conventional seatbelt or a lapbelt only.
FD
Just got the paperwork out:
Romer King (with the umlaut points on the o but cannot find that on the keyboard)
www.britax-roemer.de
I bought it from a Halfords in the Netherlands.
It is a Romer King Isofix. They do have a four point harness (fixed to the child seat) but the seat itself can be attached with either a conventional seatbelt or a lapbelt only.
FD
Just got the paperwork out:
Romer King (with the umlaut points on the o but cannot find that on the keyboard)
www.britax-roemer.de
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If you can wait a day or two, send it to me and I will host it and put it up here for you. I will not be able to do this until Tuesday as I am in France tomorrow very early until very late. Will not be untill Tuesday pm sometime.
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Cheers for the link Flyin Dutch. Checked the link out but it's suggesting that the shoulder belt is still required
Called Halfords (in the UK), who say they don't stock this seat and wouldn't import it. Have emailed britax roemer to see if they will sell direct.
Cheers for your help
Called Halfords (in the UK), who say they don't stock this seat and wouldn't import it. Have emailed britax roemer to see if they will sell direct.
Cheers for your help
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Baby skydriller is 2 years old and I intend to take him on his first aeroplane flight this summer. My problem is that Mrs SD HATES all forms of aerial transport, and will not go with us to check on the nipper. So my plan is to put him in his car seat in the back of the Robin with a close friend while I fly, or, get another member of the aeroclub to fly with us both in the back.....
However, if he likes it, I would eventually like to be able to fly with him by myself to visit grandparents for the day etc, but am not quite sure if its such a good idea to fly without someone else there to look after him in the back, because natually Ill be busy flying the aeroplane etc....What do you think? Anybody else done this?
Regards, SD..
However, if he likes it, I would eventually like to be able to fly with him by myself to visit grandparents for the day etc, but am not quite sure if its such a good idea to fly without someone else there to look after him in the back, because natually Ill be busy flying the aeroplane etc....What do you think? Anybody else done this?
Regards, SD..