Uses for old charts?
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Uses for old charts?
Just a thought as I re-organise my flight bag and pack the brand new half mill chart - any good uses for your old charts? I've used one before as a mask when painting the skirting board so the paint wouldn't get on the carpet.
Any good ideas before I bin it?
Thanks.
<sorry if this has been covered before>
Any good ideas before I bin it?
Thanks.
<sorry if this has been covered before>
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I have them on my study wall. Very handy for the early stages of planning - where do I want to go next weekend, how far is it, is there any airspace in the way, etc.
Obviously not suitable for the actual flight planning, but much easier to see that EGXX is 150nm with a bit of Class D en-route when it's on the wall rather than getting my current chart out of my flight-bag, unfolding it, finding the info I want, re-folding the chart and putting it back. Especially when the chances are the weather means I'll never get to actually fly the trip anyway!
Also very handy (for low-hours and student pilots especially) to see how the airspace actually works. It's only when the chart is opened out that you can actually see the airways and see how their base changes as you move across the country.
Sorry for the serious replies on what is obviously not intended to be a serious thread. In the interests of keeping the thread light-hearted, I'll also add that unfolding and studying charts on the Tube in the rush-hour is great for getting back at the broadsheet readers who seem to think that they own the whole carriage and can open their newspaper in your face
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Obviously not suitable for the actual flight planning, but much easier to see that EGXX is 150nm with a bit of Class D en-route when it's on the wall rather than getting my current chart out of my flight-bag, unfolding it, finding the info I want, re-folding the chart and putting it back. Especially when the chances are the weather means I'll never get to actually fly the trip anyway!
Also very handy (for low-hours and student pilots especially) to see how the airspace actually works. It's only when the chart is opened out that you can actually see the airways and see how their base changes as you move across the country.
Sorry for the serious replies on what is obviously not intended to be a serious thread. In the interests of keeping the thread light-hearted, I'll also add that unfolding and studying charts on the Tube in the rush-hour is great for getting back at the broadsheet readers who seem to think that they own the whole carriage and can open their newspaper in your face
FFF
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Actually, FFF , it was supposed to be a semi serious post! But I have to laugh at some of the replies. Actually your idea of putting on study wall is really good, also the one about giving to rear seat passengers.....
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You might also think of asking if anyone wants it?
I was very grateful to someone who forwarded me their old chart last year. As a non uk based pilot, considering making a trip over there, it makes thinking about what is practical a bit easier. Obviously once someone decides to go, and knows where they are going, they would need the current chart, but the old one would be helpful for some forward planning.
When I offered my old Irish one, there were plenty of takers
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I was very grateful to someone who forwarded me their old chart last year. As a non uk based pilot, considering making a trip over there, it makes thinking about what is practical a bit easier. Obviously once someone decides to go, and knows where they are going, they would need the current chart, but the old one would be helpful for some forward planning.
When I offered my old Irish one, there were plenty of takers
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As well as the suggestions above, I've used an old map as a picnic mat - spread it out on the gound and put all the picnic stuff on it, being laminated means it doesn't get soggy if the ground is bit wet.
I did once consider getting one turned into table mats, but couldn't find anywhere that would make them.
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I did once consider getting one turned into table mats, but couldn't find anywhere that would make them.
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I have the whole of Britain on the loo wall. I plan routes while I'm....errrr.......
I sold quite a few on Ebay when I was charity fundraising. I didn't get more than the new price, but probably around half...especially for the northern one, and most especially Scotland, which people seem to want for reference...or dreaming...
The cafe at Wellesbourne uses them as table cloths/covers.
I sold quite a few on Ebay when I was charity fundraising. I didn't get more than the new price, but probably around half...especially for the northern one, and most especially Scotland, which people seem to want for reference...or dreaming...
The cafe at Wellesbourne uses them as table cloths/covers.
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Javelin, PM me your address and I shall post you, if interested, the 2002 VFR Guide and chart edition 28 (I am keeping the 2003 guide and chart 29 for rough initial planning when in my office). No charge, but I suggest a donation to a suitable charity eg: your local air ambulance or RAF Benevolent fund.
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Your local ATC/CCF Sqn might appreciate any contributions for instructional purposes. We used to take all our out of date en-route and other non-classified charts from Ops to the local primary school - V. big sheets of paper are expensive, and the kids love the expanse of white to create their masterpieces!
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Good thread!
I'm taking a friend's 'plane mad' 7 year old for an air experience flight in a couple of weeks. Assuming he's well behaved the old half mill chart will make an excellent souvenir for the young chap. If he isn't well behaved, it will be a handy parachute for him, if he unfolds it in time
I'm taking a friend's 'plane mad' 7 year old for an air experience flight in a couple of weeks. Assuming he's well behaved the old half mill chart will make an excellent souvenir for the young chap. If he isn't well behaved, it will be a handy parachute for him, if he unfolds it in time
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My most recent outdated chart is hanging on the wall with all my cross country routes* and landaway destinations marked on it so. It's nice to see where I've been so I can plan future routes to cover new ground.
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(* or at least a straight-line approximation to where they should have been)
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(* or at least a straight-line approximation to where they should have been)
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I use mine on the tube. I slowly unfold, looking quizzically as if there is a reason why I need to expand further and further. Eventually I manage to get the WHOLE half mill unwrapped, and make a 'seat tent', which gives me a further 30 minutes kip.
Occasionally it goes wrong and a disgruntled fellow passenger rips it away in disgrace. Obviously I remonstrate. "Don't use that for flight planning or navigation!! It's out of date!".
At that point they are usually quite surprised and leave me alone. Or call the police.
Occasionally it goes wrong and a disgruntled fellow passenger rips it away in disgrace. Obviously I remonstrate. "Don't use that for flight planning or navigation!! It's out of date!".
At that point they are usually quite surprised and leave me alone. Or call the police.
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I just bin mine usually, I will think twice now though
When are the new ones issued? I saw on the CAA website 19th April? I have a subscription service but as yet I have failed to recieve my new one and I can't remember for the life of me who the subscription service was with although i know for sure it isnt Transair lol
D.
When are the new ones issued? I saw on the CAA website 19th April? I have a subscription service but as yet I have failed to recieve my new one and I can't remember for the life of me who the subscription service was with although i know for sure it isnt Transair lol
D.