FAA PPL from a CAA PPL
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FAA PPL from a CAA PPL
A quick question to tap the wealth of knowledge out there.
I have a UK CAA license and fly regularly here, but also travel to the US regularly and I would like to obtain an FAA PPL to be able to fly there. Can I easily obtain an FAA PPL and if so, can I apply and do the appropriate admin at an FAA office here, or must I do it all in the states?
Time and cost info would be useful too.
Many thanks
I have a UK CAA license and fly regularly here, but also travel to the US regularly and I would like to obtain an FAA PPL to be able to fly there. Can I easily obtain an FAA PPL and if so, can I apply and do the appropriate admin at an FAA office here, or must I do it all in the states?
Time and cost info would be useful too.
Many thanks
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From: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
See http://www.caa.co.uk/srg/licensing/f...sp?groupid=612
What was once a simple system has now been made more difficult, thanks to terrorism.....
What was once a simple system has now been made more difficult, thanks to terrorism.....
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From: Savannah GA & Portsmouth UK
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From: iRELAND
Are you sure that is what you want to do?
This would be a very bad move to make at this time from anywhere within europe.
READ THIS.
http://irishaviators.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=93
This would be a very bad move to make at this time from anywhere within europe.
READ THIS.
http://irishaviators.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=93
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Skyrover
You're talking about PPL's flying only on an FAA licence. What Classic wants is an FAA licence issued on the basis of his UK licence. The FAA will give you one of theirs (providing the paperwork side is ok) which remains current provided your UK licence and medical is also current. No FAA medical is required for this option.
You're talking about PPL's flying only on an FAA licence. What Classic wants is an FAA licence issued on the basis of his UK licence. The FAA will give you one of theirs (providing the paperwork side is ok) which remains current provided your UK licence and medical is also current. No FAA medical is required for this option.
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From: I have no idea but the view's great.
Okay pigeons, standby for cat.
The FAA website mentioned above says:
"If you have a foreign license issued by a member state of ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization), you can use it to get a special private pilot's license to fly in the United States or to fly a U.S. registered aircraft."
So, where does this leave the holder of an NPPL? It is a foreign licence issued by a member state of ICAO.
If anyone from the CAA or FAA should read this then please pass on to another topic without rewriting any legislation first.
The FAA website mentioned above says:
"If you have a foreign license issued by a member state of ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization), you can use it to get a special private pilot's license to fly in the United States or to fly a U.S. registered aircraft."
So, where does this leave the holder of an NPPL? It is a foreign licence issued by a member state of ICAO.
If anyone from the CAA or FAA should read this then please pass on to another topic without rewriting any legislation first.
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J.A.F.O.
The answer to that one is very simple I'm afraid. Forget the Website. The detail at FAR 61.75 b(ii) says that if the licence is not ICAO approved, then no FAA-equivalent ticket will be issued.
Since an NPPL is not an ICAO licence, you would be out of luck.
Nice try though.
2D
The answer to that one is very simple I'm afraid. Forget the Website. The detail at FAR 61.75 b(ii) says that if the licence is not ICAO approved, then no FAA-equivalent ticket will be issued.
Since an NPPL is not an ICAO licence, you would be out of luck.
Nice try though.
2D
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J.A.F.O
And if you want it in chapter and verse, it's page 7, section 5 of http://www.faa.gov/avr/afs/faa/8700/...2/2_029_00.pdf
And if you want it in chapter and verse, it's page 7, section 5 of http://www.faa.gov/avr/afs/faa/8700/...2/2_029_00.pdf
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From: 75N 16E
This would be a very bad move to make at this time from anywhere within europe.
Anyway, as others have mentioned, it doesn't matter two hoots if you have an FAA licence issued on basis of ICAO licence (IAA/CAA/JAA etc) as this is only rendered valid when your current licence is valid and your current licence is only valid when accompanied by a valid medical.....so everything is valid
EA
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'Skyrover',
Just trying to see if that was an acronym for 'shroudwaving'
No doubt before long someone will post something along the lines of:
FAA does not allow N reg aircraft to be flown outside US NAS; JAR to ban N reg aircraft to be owned by non US citizens; etc etc etc
They all come up with a boring regularity and never seem to come to anything.
FD
BTW: You obviously had your caps lock on when you typed in your location.
Just trying to see if that was an acronym for 'shroudwaving'
No doubt before long someone will post something along the lines of:
FAA does not allow N reg aircraft to be flown outside US NAS; JAR to ban N reg aircraft to be owned by non US citizens; etc etc etc
They all come up with a boring regularity and never seem to come to anything.
FD
BTW: You obviously had your caps lock on when you typed in your location.
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From: 'Merica
Hi All,
Just to let you know I am currently following the guidelines from the FAA's website. I have:-
1. Completed their form and sent it to FAA HQ Oklahoma along with copies of UK Licence/Medical/ratings page
2. Completed our CAA's form in order for them to release info about me (£15)
3. Reveived a letter back from FAA confirming my application and inviting me to come and see the FAA Inspector (Washington FSDO (my choice)) to finnish papers and collect licence. Still have to pay them on arrival in Washington ($94 I think) ..........
Cheers
Bear 555
Just to let you know I am currently following the guidelines from the FAA's website. I have:-
1. Completed their form and sent it to FAA HQ Oklahoma along with copies of UK Licence/Medical/ratings page
2. Completed our CAA's form in order for them to release info about me (£15)
3. Reveived a letter back from FAA confirming my application and inviting me to come and see the FAA Inspector (Washington FSDO (my choice)) to finnish papers and collect licence. Still have to pay them on arrival in Washington ($94 I think) ..........
Cheers
Bear 555
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Fly Stimulator,
Your right - my apologies.
The paperwork I have says:-
" There is no fee if applying in the United States. If you are applying in a foreign country, bring a check from a US bank or an American Express travelers check. Make the check out to the FAA for $68 (US)."
As I will be visiting Washington I am assuming that counts as 'applying in the United States'.
Just waiting for the next business trip to the USA now!
Bear 555
Your right - my apologies.
The paperwork I have says:-
" There is no fee if applying in the United States. If you are applying in a foreign country, bring a check from a US bank or an American Express travelers check. Make the check out to the FAA for $68 (US)."
As I will be visiting Washington I am assuming that counts as 'applying in the United States'.
Just waiting for the next business trip to the USA now!
Bear 555
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From: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Back in the days of a FAA field office in our own dear Belgrano, I recall the farce of trying to pay the chap..
UK cheque? No sir
Eurocheque? Not valid in US
Access card? Say, buddy, what's one of them?
American Express? That won't do nicely..
Cash in Uncle Spam's greenbacks? No sir, I can't take cash....
Eventually had to get a bank draft and send it to O...........klahoma.
Makes paying the CAA a model of simplicity!
UK cheque? No sir
Eurocheque? Not valid in US
Access card? Say, buddy, what's one of them?
American Express? That won't do nicely..
Cash in Uncle Spam's greenbacks? No sir, I can't take cash....
Eventually had to get a bank draft and send it to O...........klahoma.
Makes paying the CAA a model of simplicity!
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From: 'Merica
Have to say the CAA's involvement so far has been quite painless (apart from the £15 - thats 13.6 minutes flying !!!).
The form was simple and a receipt was sent out, making me fairly comfortable all was well.
FAA's letter was also promptly dealt with - a reply being received within 3 weeks.
Bear
The form was simple and a receipt was sent out, making me fairly comfortable all was well.
FAA's letter was also promptly dealt with - a reply being received within 3 weeks.
Bear
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From: Savannah GA & Portsmouth UK
Makes paying the CAA a model of simplicity!
