"Faking It". PPL?
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"Faking It". PPL?
I love the programme.
Just for fun chaps. I was thinking about posting this in jet blast, but thought better of it.
Do you think it be done, as in the TV programme?
Get someone to PPL, GFT, and convince passengers (say) that they were 'real' (e.g. vs 3 other PPLs with 100 or 200 Hours or whatever?)
Just for fun chaps. I was thinking about posting this in jet blast, but thought better of it.
Do you think it be done, as in the TV programme?
Get someone to PPL, GFT, and convince passengers (say) that they were 'real' (e.g. vs 3 other PPLs with 100 or 200 Hours or whatever?)
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Interesting - didn't know it has some history.
Clearly they want to do things where someone has a chance of succeeding. That's the appeal of the programme.
Personally I reckon that with enough caveats you could make it achievable (e.g. you just have to convince pax, rather than an instructor or examiner)
Clearly they want to do things where someone has a chance of succeeding. That's the appeal of the programme.
Personally I reckon that with enough caveats you could make it achievable (e.g. you just have to convince pax, rather than an instructor or examiner)
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The fakers on faking it usually have 1 month to prepare.
That is ample time to send someone to the US, get their PPL in 3 weeks, tootle around for a couple of days hour-building, take in a theme park or two and be back home for Brandy and Medals.
The programme makes may have to fake the student visa in order for the above timescale to work
FIS.
That is ample time to send someone to the US, get their PPL in 3 weeks, tootle around for a couple of days hour-building, take in a theme park or two and be back home for Brandy and Medals.
The programme makes may have to fake the student visa in order for the above timescale to work
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What are they faking though? If they have done all this they ARE qualified PPLs and are not really faking anything.
Much more realistic would be to give someone Sim training and then try to get them faking being a fully qualified airline pilot, the judges being training Captains.
Much more realistic would be to give someone Sim training and then try to get them faking being a fully qualified airline pilot, the judges being training Captains.
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Much more realistic would be to give someone Sim training and then try to get them faking being a fully qualified airline pilot, the judges being training Captains.
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aaah, ive flown with Evo on more than one occasion and in more than one aircraft and theyve all been greasers....
and as for the A320, of course its difficult, have you ever tried to eat your dinner on a tray, but with no TV?
and as for the A320, of course its difficult, have you ever tried to eat your dinner on a tray, but with no TV?
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Surely you folks aren't quite thinking in the terms that the programme normally does.
The couple of episodes I've seen take somebody (usually) with only a nodding acquaintance with the subject and make them appear to be a professional. (Turning somebody who ran a burger van into a Chef-du-Cuisine was a good example.)
Being consistent with that would perhaps be taking a low hour hobby PPL / glider pilot (even an aeromodeller) and trying to pass them off as an airline co-pilot / test pilot / other piloting professional.
Two obvious ways then spring to mind that could be used for the "assessment" part of the programme. If they were trying to bluff it as an airline captain, make them turn up and pass a typical sim-check. If they were trying to bluff it as a TP, have them fly an assessment of a new type with a safety pilot in the RH seat (and flying as Captain) to keep them out of trouble (this happens all the time in the real world) then give a formal debrief on the type to an audience of professional TPs and Engineers - again a real-world task that could be done legally and safely.
Could be quite fun, particularly since you'd not struggle to find a sufficiently loud and opinionated personality amongst the ranks of most clubs PPLs
G
Not a low-hour PPL, but helped put one of the Scrapheap flying-machine programmes together, and think this could be quite fun too.
The couple of episodes I've seen take somebody (usually) with only a nodding acquaintance with the subject and make them appear to be a professional. (Turning somebody who ran a burger van into a Chef-du-Cuisine was a good example.)
Being consistent with that would perhaps be taking a low hour hobby PPL / glider pilot (even an aeromodeller) and trying to pass them off as an airline co-pilot / test pilot / other piloting professional.
Two obvious ways then spring to mind that could be used for the "assessment" part of the programme. If they were trying to bluff it as an airline captain, make them turn up and pass a typical sim-check. If they were trying to bluff it as a TP, have them fly an assessment of a new type with a safety pilot in the RH seat (and flying as Captain) to keep them out of trouble (this happens all the time in the real world) then give a formal debrief on the type to an audience of professional TPs and Engineers - again a real-world task that could be done legally and safely.
Could be quite fun, particularly since you'd not struggle to find a sufficiently loud and opinionated personality amongst the ranks of most clubs PPLs
G
Not a low-hour PPL, but helped put one of the Scrapheap flying-machine programmes together, and think this could be quite fun too.
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I was thinking about proosing an idea to this program.
I'm suggesting a job swap between myself (a 777 driver) and a coach driver. I think in the end they'd probably rumble one of us, especially when I take a wrong turn on the A2.
I'm suggesting a job swap between myself (a 777 driver) and a coach driver. I think in the end they'd probably rumble one of us, especially when I take a wrong turn on the A2.