Flourescent Jackets
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I've got a bright orange 'Gill' jacket
It has the added advantage that the fleece lining keeps me warm on aircraft checks on chilly mornings.
Also useful when you're on first lesson and the cabin heat hasn't had time to work!
But those orange tabards look excellent, I'd pay postage on one too......
It has the added advantage that the fleece lining keeps me warm on aircraft checks on chilly mornings.
Also useful when you're on first lesson and the cabin heat hasn't had time to work!
But those orange tabards look excellent, I'd pay postage on one too......
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Hi all. I will have a look and see how many are hanging around at work and post back here for whoever wants one. As I say it has our comapny logo on it on the front and that can easily be coloured in with a thick black marker pen.
As for them being not very visible I have to disagree. Often I have seen the police next to the track when something has happened or they are looking for someone(they wear both orange and the yellow/green ones) and the orange ones stand out miles better everytime. That of course is just my opinion and I am not saying at all that the green ones are no-good. Just basing it on my experience in all kinds of weather conditions, light etc.
As for them being not very visible I have to disagree. Often I have seen the police next to the track when something has happened or they are looking for someone(they wear both orange and the yellow/green ones) and the orange ones stand out miles better everytime. That of course is just my opinion and I am not saying at all that the green ones are no-good. Just basing it on my experience in all kinds of weather conditions, light etc.
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ACW, you got off better than I did at Lydd, I had some t#t come and give me a 5 minute earbashing about how I could be run down by an aircraft for not wearing a day-glo!!!!!!
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For those of you close to East London, a quick walk along Whitechapel Road (A11) may pay dividends. I got an EN compliant bomber style flourescent jacket (nicely padded too) in a little shop there for £25 (down from £35 normally). They were also selling waistcoats for £8 as well as yellow T Shirts with reflective bands ...
As Circuit Basher says, the standard for such jackets is contained in EN471:1994. This lays down the allowable colours and the width and placing of the reflective stripes. Both International Yellow and Rescue Orange (as they used to be known) are allowed.
Cursory inspection of the Mustang jackets website shows that they're not EN compliant (yet). (At least, that's my reading of what they say and in support of that view, there's no obvious sign of the flourescent stripes).
As Circuit Basher says, the standard for such jackets is contained in EN471:1994. This lays down the allowable colours and the width and placing of the reflective stripes. Both International Yellow and Rescue Orange (as they used to be known) are allowed.
Cursory inspection of the Mustang jackets website shows that they're not EN compliant (yet). (At least, that's my reading of what they say and in support of that view, there's no obvious sign of the flourescent stripes).
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By the sound of it Pronto this is something that someone might be tempted to wear in the cockpit, which would not be a good idea.
The whole point of these jackets is that they are reflective and reflections on the inside of the windshield are exactly what you don't want.
If you do have to wear one it should be stowed when driving (aeroplane or car) which is I suspect why the traffic police put them on when they get out of the car rather than wearing them while driving.
On a lighthearted note I heard of a way in which they can cause accidents.
A friend works for the Vehicle Inspectorate and gets called out to investigate accidents. A truck had lost a wheel but was safely on the hard shoulder with a police car behind and traffic flowing freely past.
My friend stands in front of the truck in his fluorescent jacket to take a picture. Passing motorist sees someone yellow pointing a device in his direction, assumes it is a speed gun and james the brakes on. Multiple pile-up as several cars run into each other.
Exit friend, leaving police to sort out the mess.
Haven't seen the picture yet but I gather it has nicely captured the smoke emanating from the tyres.
Mike
The whole point of these jackets is that they are reflective and reflections on the inside of the windshield are exactly what you don't want.
If you do have to wear one it should be stowed when driving (aeroplane or car) which is I suspect why the traffic police put them on when they get out of the car rather than wearing them while driving.
On a lighthearted note I heard of a way in which they can cause accidents.
A friend works for the Vehicle Inspectorate and gets called out to investigate accidents. A truck had lost a wheel but was safely on the hard shoulder with a police car behind and traffic flowing freely past.
My friend stands in front of the truck in his fluorescent jacket to take a picture. Passing motorist sees someone yellow pointing a device in his direction, assumes it is a speed gun and james the brakes on. Multiple pile-up as several cars run into each other.
Exit friend, leaving police to sort out the mess.
Haven't seen the picture yet but I gather it has nicely captured the smoke emanating from the tyres.
Mike
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Hi-Viz Jackets
As an "arm waver" we always wear one (for obvious reasons). In our little group of friends that do this everyone except my sister and I wear yellow. We wear orange.
This stemmed from our Air Cadet days when we all wore yellow and to make life easier for people those who want to know who was in charge we wore orange so they could be directed to either of us without problem.
It can get confusing at "our" fly-ins when all sorts of people are wearing a yellow H-V Vest....
And if the sun is low and behind you pilots struggle to see us... whatever the colour and size of bats!
Slightly off topic....
It surprises me that anyone can arm wave with no real training. We won't let anyone unless we've trained them up and are happy that they be safe and sound. If anyone becomes dangerous then off they come! (and refreshed if required)
Oh in case you are wondering I have been doing this arm waving lark in my spare time for 15+ years at various events (including PFA Rallies) and my sister has about 10 years experience.
This stemmed from our Air Cadet days when we all wore yellow and to make life easier for people those who want to know who was in charge we wore orange so they could be directed to either of us without problem.
It can get confusing at "our" fly-ins when all sorts of people are wearing a yellow H-V Vest....
And if the sun is low and behind you pilots struggle to see us... whatever the colour and size of bats!
Slightly off topic....
It surprises me that anyone can arm wave with no real training. We won't let anyone unless we've trained them up and are happy that they be safe and sound. If anyone becomes dangerous then off they come! (and refreshed if required)
Oh in case you are wondering I have been doing this arm waving lark in my spare time for 15+ years at various events (including PFA Rallies) and my sister has about 10 years experience.
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Oh in case you are wondering I have been doing this arm waving lark in my spare time for 15+ years at various events (including PFA Rallies) and my sister has about 10 years experience.
There's a joke in there, somewhere
BS
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I was told when I worked on railway property that the reason why railway workers are required to wear dayglo orange waistcoats is something to do with confusing the flourescent yellow jackets (or green to some people) with the green of the railway signals. Stoopid I know but believed to be correct!
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When was the last time you heard of an aircraft taxiing into someone ???
I think it more likely that people walk into aircraft ... !?! (perhaps the aircraft should wear them)
I can understand at large(r) airports (dispatch/baggage handlers etc) with jets and the possibility of sucking someone through an engine if getting to close !
I think it more likely that people walk into aircraft ... !?! (perhaps the aircraft should wear them)
I can understand at large(r) airports (dispatch/baggage handlers etc) with jets and the possibility of sucking someone through an engine if getting to close !
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A Railway Engineer friend of mine told me that he has to wear an orange jacket when down on the track and a yellow jacket when up on a bridge. He can't wear one jacket that is half orange/half yellow because that combination is reserved for the person in charge. When I did my aerodrome firefighter training, ONLY the person in charge was permitted to wear the combination jacket because that was what would identify him to the professional emergency services when they arrived on the scene.
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Colours on the railway track
'specially for Zlin526 and Tinstaafl
The colours "RED" and "GREEN" mean STOP and PROCEED to an engine/train driver, whether in a semaphore signal, a colour light signal or as a hand signal from the track side.
Thus the wearing of clothes in these colours is frowned upon by Railway Authorities worldwide and is covered in all Track Safety Courses that are now mandatory in said Authorities.
In fact the U.K., Australia and Malaysia use the same syllabus.
Yep, it's my business too
picks up anorak
'specially for Zlin526 and Tinstaafl
The colours "RED" and "GREEN" mean STOP and PROCEED to an engine/train driver, whether in a semaphore signal, a colour light signal or as a hand signal from the track side.
Thus the wearing of clothes in these colours is frowned upon by Railway Authorities worldwide and is covered in all Track Safety Courses that are now mandatory in said Authorities.
In fact the U.K., Australia and Malaysia use the same syllabus.
Yep, it's my business too
picks up anorak
