Smoking and light aircraft
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Smoking and light aircraft
Simple question to all PPL's, CPL's etc..
Does anybody let their passengers/fello pilots somke in their aircraft?
I know most of the cessnas I fly have ash trays, and it is not uncommon to find butts in them! So I know some pilots do!
What are your views and reasons, also does anybody know the legal line on it?
CHeers
Does anybody let their passengers/fello pilots somke in their aircraft?
I know most of the cessnas I fly have ash trays, and it is not uncommon to find butts in them! So I know some pilots do!
What are your views and reasons, also does anybody know the legal line on it?
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I'm sure the aircraft I rent have "NO SMOKING" placards in them. Even without I wouldn't let anyone smoke in my aircraft any more than I'd let them smoke in my home.
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No smoking in my airplane thank you! People are trying to breathe!!!!
And the legal line? I am the captain and if I say no smoking then it's NO SMOKING!
And the legal line? I am the captain and if I say no smoking then it's NO SMOKING!
nasib ever seen how quickly a fabric covered aeroplane burns out?
If you put a match to the rudder of a Piper Cub the flames would be at the propellor before you could run there.
Dropping a ciggy in the cockpit of an aeroplane would make life really interesting, especially the aforementioned Cub or an Aeronca or Auster etc. Wings with no fabric on them also don't provide much lift.
So no, I don't smoke when flying and neither does anybody who wants to come with me.
If you put a match to the rudder of a Piper Cub the flames would be at the propellor before you could run there.
Dropping a ciggy in the cockpit of an aeroplane would make life really interesting, especially the aforementioned Cub or an Aeronca or Auster etc. Wings with no fabric on them also don't provide much lift.
So no, I don't smoke when flying and neither does anybody who wants to come with me.
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unfortunately I had to fly with 3 guys on a crosscountry flight and the owner of the plane was a chain smoker!! He puffed away during the whole one hour flight! 
Since it was HIS plane and we were all flying along for free (going to take a written flight exam), we didn't dare say anything... it was terrible!!
And an instructor at my present club is a also a chain smoker and smokes during instruction! Luckily I don't have to put up with him anymore, being myself an instructor, but the poor students....
Westy
P.S. I know of no regulation that says it's illegal....
Since it was HIS plane and we were all flying along for free (going to take a written flight exam), we didn't dare say anything... it was terrible!!And an instructor at my present club is a also a chain smoker and smokes during instruction! Luckily I don't have to put up with him anymore, being myself an instructor, but the poor students....
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P.S. I know of no regulation that says it's illegal....
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What are your views and reasons, also does anybody know the legal line on it?
Article 66 says...
Smoking in aircraft
66 - (1) Notices indicating when smoking is prohibited shall be exhibited in every aircraft registered in the United Kingdom so as to be visible from each passenger seat therein.
(2) A person shall not smoke in any compartment of an aircraft registered in the United Kingdom at a time when smoking is prohibited in that compartment by a notice to that effect exhibited by or on behalf of the commander of the aircraft.
66 - (1) Notices indicating when smoking is prohibited shall be exhibited in every aircraft registered in the United Kingdom so as to be visible from each passenger seat therein.
(2) A person shall not smoke in any compartment of an aircraft registered in the United Kingdom at a time when smoking is prohibited in that compartment by a notice to that effect exhibited by or on behalf of the commander of the aircraft.
(5) If any person contravenes any provision specified in Part A of Schedule 12 to this Order he shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding Level 4 on the standard scale.
evo at first glance your quotes give the impresssion that smoking in aircraft is illegal whereas in fact it is not.
Smoking in aircraft
66 - (1) Notices indicating when smoking is prohibited shall be exhibited in every aircraft registered in the United Kingdom so as to be visible from each passenger seat therein.
(2) A person shall not smoke in any compartment of an aircraft registered in the United Kingdom at a time when smoking is prohibited in that compartment by a notice to that effect exhibited by or on behalf of the commander of the aircraft.
The word when is the critical one......
Smoking in aircraft
66 - (1) Notices indicating when smoking is prohibited shall be exhibited in every aircraft registered in the United Kingdom so as to be visible from each passenger seat therein.
(2) A person shall not smoke in any compartment of an aircraft registered in the United Kingdom at a time when smoking is prohibited in that compartment by a notice to that effect exhibited by or on behalf of the commander of the aircraft.
The word when is the critical one......
Evo just read the edit 
Nasib why the negativity? I like a cig or a cigar, especially when there is a beer in my right hand. In the past I have had a cig when I was flying my Cessna and there was no turbulence around. I only did it a couple of times before I felt so nervous of the end dropping off the ciggy that I got so uncomfortable with it so I stopped.
I've had the burning bit drop off a ciggy in a car and :
a: it makes a mess of your carpet
b: I could stop to find it
c: modern car carpets and seats are highly fire resistant so no major damage was done but the thought of a smouldering ciggy end burning into ancient carpet of dubious fire resisting properties made me deeply uneasy.
I've also given up smoking often enough (!!!!) to realise how uncomfortable most people are with smoke in a confined space
literally in some cases. I guess you haven't come to this conclusion yet 
Nasib why the negativity? I like a cig or a cigar, especially when there is a beer in my right hand. In the past I have had a cig when I was flying my Cessna and there was no turbulence around. I only did it a couple of times before I felt so nervous of the end dropping off the ciggy that I got so uncomfortable with it so I stopped.
I've had the burning bit drop off a ciggy in a car and :
a: it makes a mess of your carpet
b: I could stop to find it
c: modern car carpets and seats are highly fire resistant so no major damage was done but the thought of a smouldering ciggy end burning into ancient carpet of dubious fire resisting properties made me deeply uneasy.
I've also given up smoking often enough (!!!!) to realise how uncomfortable most people are with smoke in a confined space
literally in some cases. I guess you haven't come to this conclusion yet
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Get over it, the world is becoming a more anti smoking place to live - fact, you wanna smoke in your aircraft? go ahead, its what they call free will innit? but your whole manner in which you post is hypocritical, as you can see most of us are non smokers and believe it or not we are entitled to our opinion just as you are
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Get over it, the world is becoming a more anti smoking place to live - fact, you wanna smoke in your aircraft? go ahead, its what they call free will innit? but your whole manner in which you post is hypocritical, as you can see most of us are non smokers and believe it or not we are entitled to our opinion just as you are
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Some 20-plus years ago, when I was a smoker, I had the unfortunate experience of dragging the hot end off accidentally with my fingers, like you do...
It was in an AA5, I think.
The burning tip fell between my legs and disappeared. I thought it was on the seat somewhere - and I was right. It burned a hole in my trousers, and my thigh, and eventually in the seat. I danced around a great deal before I managed to cover it with a plastic checklist.
Fingers were damned sore, too.
As luck would have it, I was in the cruise with plenty of height.
But I wouldn't recommend it at any stage of flight.
It was in an AA5, I think.
The burning tip fell between my legs and disappeared. I thought it was on the seat somewhere - and I was right. It burned a hole in my trousers, and my thigh, and eventually in the seat. I danced around a great deal before I managed to cover it with a plastic checklist.
Fingers were damned sore, too.
As luck would have it, I was in the cruise with plenty of height.
But I wouldn't recommend it at any stage of flight.
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I'm a smoker and have smoked in my plane....once.
It was just because I felt like it at the time. I never use the ashtray in my car and I therefore was not prepared to use it in my a/c. As I puffed my way through (Cessna window open) I found bits of ash flying everywhere and I had to wait for it to go out before putting the butt.................on the coaming.
The next bit of turbulence came and it rolled to the front by the windscreen and is probably still there somewhere.
Since then.........no smoking in my steed. There is a time and a place and the controls of an a/c are neither!
It was just because I felt like it at the time. I never use the ashtray in my car and I therefore was not prepared to use it in my a/c. As I puffed my way through (Cessna window open) I found bits of ash flying everywhere and I had to wait for it to go out before putting the butt.................on the coaming.
The next bit of turbulence came and it rolled to the front by the windscreen and is probably still there somewhere.
Since then.........no smoking in my steed. There is a time and a place and the controls of an a/c are neither!
