TBM700 down at Oxford
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TBM700 down at Oxford
BBC news reporting the crash with three fatalities of a TBM700 at Oxford Kiddlington, apparently after "overshooting the runway" at the end of a flight from Brussels.
Anything more known?
Anything more known?
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They're going to lose their excellent reputation if they go on like this.
Any question of our mutual friend being involved?
The quote"Three people were killed when their light aircraft crashed at an airfield in Oxfordshire.
The single-engine two-seater plane overshot the runway after a flight from Brussels to the aerodrome in Kidlington at 1120 GMT on Saturday." leaves a little to be desired in the jounalistic accuracy department.
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Any question of our mutual friend being involved?
The quote"Three people were killed when their light aircraft crashed at an airfield in Oxfordshire.
The single-engine two-seater plane overshot the runway after a flight from Brussels to the aerodrome in Kidlington at 1120 GMT on Saturday." leaves a little to be desired in the jounalistic accuracy department.
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What makes you think that it was a TBM?
BBC News 24 desperately trying to sensationalise: "It would have been much worse if it had hit the A44"; "Many celebrities use Kidlington, including Richard Branson. Were any celebrities involved?"
Luckily the Policeman was being sensible and measured in his replies.
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What makes you think that it was a TBM?
BBC News 24 desperately trying to sensationalise: "It would have been much worse if it had hit the A44"; "Many celebrities use Kidlington, including Richard Branson. Were any celebrities involved?"
Luckily the Policeman was being sensible and measured in his replies.
W
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What makes you think that it was a TBM?
The occupants are now reported to be Belgian and French nationals.
BBC News 24 desperately trying to sensationalise: "It would have been much worse if it had hit the A44"
You're probably more conversant with the statistics than I am -- how many pedestrians have been slain by drivers since then?
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I'm just up the road in Woodstock. BBCi local news has that the a44 which runs past the airfield has been closed. That's all I've got. More if I get it, but I'm not going to rubberneck. I can hear an a/c going over so it looks like Kidlington's open again.
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James
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You're probably more conversant with the statistics than I am -- how many pedestrians have been slain by drivers since then?
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Hi,
Well I can confirm it is a TBM700, 3 fatalities, it crashed on approach to 01 at Oxford, it came down a few hundred yds befroe the 01 threshold about 50m left of the centreline, just before the A44 dual carriageway. 2 belgians and 1 french person on board I believe.
I've also flown over it and it certainly didnt look survivable. Though I only got a brief look at it as I was trying to land on 01!
I think the aircraft flew in from Brussels and someone who witnessed it said it pitched up very sharply and suddenly, then rolled before crashing.
It certainly wasn't an overshoot as some of the media have been reporting
Hope everyone at PPRuNe will join me in offering condolences to the victims.
LP
Well I can confirm it is a TBM700, 3 fatalities, it crashed on approach to 01 at Oxford, it came down a few hundred yds befroe the 01 threshold about 50m left of the centreline, just before the A44 dual carriageway. 2 belgians and 1 french person on board I believe.
I've also flown over it and it certainly didnt look survivable. Though I only got a brief look at it as I was trying to land on 01!
I think the aircraft flew in from Brussels and someone who witnessed it said it pitched up very sharply and suddenly, then rolled before crashing.
It certainly wasn't an overshoot as some of the media have been reporting
Hope everyone at PPRuNe will join me in offering condolences to the victims.
LP
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The pattern you describe seems to be becoming a little too prevalent in the TBM700 world...not disimilar to the one I was involved in in Dundee in October and apparently similar to one in France last year.
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what it normally looks like .....
http://www.snecma.com/en/group/appli...pplication=331
http://www.ebhn.be/images/Duxford200...%20700_JPG.htm
hobie .....
http://www.snecma.com/en/group/appli...pplication=331
http://www.ebhn.be/images/Duxford200...%20700_JPG.htm
hobie .....
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WCollins wrote
The pattern you describe seems to be becoming a little too prevalent in the TBM700 world...not disimilar to the one I was involved in in Dundee in October and apparently similar to one in France last year.
Can you give me some more info what the problem was with these crashes, trim?
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The pattern you describe seems to be becoming a little too prevalent in the TBM700 world...not disimilar to the one I was involved in in Dundee in October and apparently similar to one in France last year.
Can you give me some more info what the problem was with these crashes, trim?
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The description of the Oxford accident suggests a stall/spin in on approach. On the face of it, not a lot in common with the Dundee Accident. With the exception of the aircraft type and the general phase of the flight what common elements are you seeing WCollins?
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WCollins:
What was the cause of your stove inn at Dundee WCollins? 
PS. Hope your feeling better BT.
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The pattern you describe seems to be becoming a little too prevalent in the TBM700 world...not disimilar to the one I was involved in in Dundee in October and apparently similar to one in France last year.
PS. Hope your feeling better BT.
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The description of the Oxford accident suggests a stall/spin in on approach. On the face of it, not a lot in common with the Dundee Accident.
Isnt it funny how, in times like this, we all become experts in aircraft accidents?
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Isnt it funny how, in times like this, we all become experts in aircraft accidents?
Your own righteous posting is one of a type after events like this.
We are here because we are pilots. When an aircraft wings over and hits the ground nearly vertically during the late stages of an approach, we are bound to wonder as to the cause. There are more and less likely scenarios.
To ponder such things in the company of other pilots does nothing to dishonour the memory of any other soul. Fault is not being discussed... only the chain of events.