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But if you want to be a prat, there is a company selling adaptors to allow your headset to be connected to your mobile phone. Then you can make calls while flying. I personally prefer to escape the telephone when flying, but take one with me just in case of emergency (kept switched off until needed ofcourse)
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I understood it was already illegal to use a mobile phone from the air. (Except in an emergency of course)
Anyway the mobile phone providers will soon identify you as your phone will switch shed loads of relays all around the area you're flying over, and make it pretty obvious who's causing the congestion.
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Anyway the mobile phone providers will soon identify you as your phone will switch shed loads of relays all around the area you're flying over, and make it pretty obvious who's causing the congestion.
Safe (phone-free) Flying
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Don't knock it till you've tried it. With the appropriate headset adapter (i.e. wiring the phone in to the intercom) you can hear and be heard perfectly well. Hardly surprsing - your radio works pretty well like that right?
As for the interference with instruments, what if you aren't using any? Nobody is saying it messes with the pitot static instruments, right? And if you're flying in VMC?
I've heard the stuff about the cellular operators, but a guy that I know regularly uses his O2 phone from his microlight without problems in that respect. Not saying that is legal, just that it can be done.
As for whosyerdaddy I am assuming this is a joke.
As for the interference with instruments, what if you aren't using any? Nobody is saying it messes with the pitot static instruments, right? And if you're flying in VMC?
I've heard the stuff about the cellular operators, but a guy that I know regularly uses his O2 phone from his microlight without problems in that respect. Not saying that is legal, just that it can be done.
As for whosyerdaddy I am assuming this is a joke.
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In any aircraft with nav instruments, it's not only illegal but 
dangerous.
In the USA, cellphone sites are constructed to work with airborne phones (it's to do with the antenna configuration) and only a few sites look upwards.
In the UK, at very low level, you might get away with it. Above 1000 feet or so, the older cellsites would get very confused because several sites would be accessed at once. The network operator would soon find out whose phone was doing it, and could "lock out" that phone if so inclined.
Don't do it.
dangerous.In the USA, cellphone sites are constructed to work with airborne phones (it's to do with the antenna configuration) and only a few sites look upwards.
In the UK, at very low level, you might get away with it. Above 1000 feet or so, the older cellsites would get very confused because several sites would be accessed at once. The network operator would soon find out whose phone was doing it, and could "lock out" that phone if so inclined.
Don't do it.
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Cusco has it right... it causes congestion on the relay stations because too many stations receive the signal at once... and don't comment that on a mountain it does the same... on a mountain you are not moving! A breakdown of the mobile phone system can be the result, the company traces the phone that caused it and can/will shut down your phone! So it's not only because of disturbance to your instruments (gliders and balloonist like to use that arguement...).
So turn the thing off while in the air! Wait until the system is perfected and it's made legal!
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So turn the thing off while in the air! Wait until the system is perfected and it's made legal!
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[RANT]What I find amazing is that "everybody knows" that it's going to be illegal in cars from December, because it is so dangerous (arguably as dangerous as drunk driving) yet you still see loads of people doing it (and swerving all over the road, going excessively slowly, going onto roundabouts without noticing and then jamming their brakes on) as if they are determined to be as dangerous as possible for as long as possible right up to the wire.
Roll'em into Court, I say.
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Roll'em into Court, I say.
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Curses! Rumbled!
Hope you guys & gals didn't mind too much
Got you talking though 'bout the new car legislation which is about as clear as mud.
I have been told I cant use a bluetooth headset in the car by one shop and I can by another.
Plus I saw one prat doing an illegal right turn this morning while talking on his batphone.
Now that's dangerous.
See ya!
Hope you guys & gals didn't mind too much
Got you talking though 'bout the new car legislation which is about as clear as mud.
I have been told I cant use a bluetooth headset in the car by one shop and I can by another.
Plus I saw one prat doing an illegal right turn this morning while talking on his batphone.
Now that's dangerous.
See ya!
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The GSM network doesn't mind if your phone can "see" more than one basestation.
The phone will listen to them all one at a time, then talk to the loudest one. You will only ever be "connected" to one channel of one cell at any time.
When it's time to switch over the network will tell the phone & base station when.
Amazingly all this works in the blink of an eye and with millions of users, some of who are travelling very fast - on trains of course
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The phone will listen to them all one at a time, then talk to the loudest one. You will only ever be "connected" to one channel of one cell at any time.
When it's time to switch over the network will tell the phone & base station when.
Amazingly all this works in the blink of an eye and with millions of users, some of who are travelling very fast - on trains of course
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I am still confused as to why people would take switched on mobile phones with them when they fly anyway.
Carrying a phone for emergencies, is very sensible. It certainly doesn't need to be switched on unless there is an emergency.
If people are talking about taking mobiles flying with them so that they can take/make calls I think that is very wrong, whether it's legal or not.
Flying is not the time to make phone calls it is the time to exercise good airmanship which involves focus and LOOKOUT!
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Carrying a phone for emergencies, is very sensible. It certainly doesn't need to be switched on unless there is an emergency.
If people are talking about taking mobiles flying with them so that they can take/make calls I think that is very wrong, whether it's legal or not.
Flying is not the time to make phone calls it is the time to exercise good airmanship which involves focus and LOOKOUT!
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Slow-Rider, have you never flown with a passenger?
Has anybody met someone who has actually been banned from a network for "messing up the network" by using their phone in the air? As Mark139 says, who probably knows much more about it than I do, surely the network must be able to handle a phone being in communication with more than one base station at once, otherwise how would contiguous coverage work? I mean, if you're driving up the M1, heck if you're walking down Oxford Street, at some point you go from cell A to cell B and at the point of changeover you MUST be in range of both cell relays, right?
Has anybody met someone who has actually been banned from a network for "messing up the network" by using their phone in the air? As Mark139 says, who probably knows much more about it than I do, surely the network must be able to handle a phone being in communication with more than one base station at once, otherwise how would contiguous coverage work? I mean, if you're driving up the M1, heck if you're walking down Oxford Street, at some point you go from cell A to cell B and at the point of changeover you MUST be in range of both cell relays, right?