Not as good as Air New Zealand but you have to try and get people to watch them

Cartoon characters pointing at cartoon doors etc really are a bit.... 1980's?

Yeah, gets the message across without being too flippant or silly.
My only criticism is the use of "do not inflate your life jacket". We've moved on from using negatives in safety critical messages. It should be "once outside, inflate your life jacket".
Also, so pleased to see that BA have finally ditched the loose bow tie life jackets to a clip and tighten type.

Five minutes as far too long for a safety video - it will be ok the first time but imagine watching it for the sixth time! Will you be paying attention? Personally I prefer the old fashioned manual safety brief - gets all the info over in a minute, but them I'm old fashioned, and they are rarely needed now that we have small screens every third row in an airbus.

An interesting question not just related to the BA safety briefing but generally is how many passengers don't speak english? Is that a problem? Could you have videos in different languages where you have seat back videos?

Yet another BA celeb heavy safety brief that goes on forever because there's much padding...

TBH I can see it being junked a lot of the time in favour of a manual demo when taxi time is short (e.g. for T5 departures > 09R)

the idea of a "short " taxi at LHR is new one onto me - sometimes I could be halfway through Lord of the Rings in the time it takes to line up

Please forgive my ignorance but why are negatives no longer used in safety critical messages?

They do; Some "foreign" carriers have the video safety brief in their own language and then English. Also videos showing safety procedures can be followed from the pictures only.

I think the poster was saying that good practice these days is to really on POSITIVE messages only - DO this, DO that

-- people get confused with a mixture of Do's and Don'ts (known as the Boris Syndrome)

Thank you, although I think you meant Dorries and Don'ts!

Hi all. I wasn't really sure where to make my first post, this thread seemed sort of right. Ish. Long time at Gatters and I find myself with a bit more time on my hands these days so decided to create an account. Hope I can add to discussions and perhaps give a bit of insight into the murky world of ground handling (which these days pretty much covers everything until wheels up).

EI flights from T2, especially in the evening if taking off in a westerly direction from the southern runway, can have very short taxis.

London Heathrow is a very large and very busy airport, and the runways are each over 2 miles long. So if you have to taxi from one end of the airport to the other before lining up, owing to the wind direction, it might take a while.......

Seems a waste of 80000 or so life jackets across their fleet at some not insignificant cost.

and on Flight radar you can see them all in a line, and others waiting to cross or join before you even push back. Not as bad as JFK but .............

Generally yes you are right, it's a 15 to 25 minute taxi out, plus minus, at LHR, regardless of runway in use.

However on some occasions T5 to 09R, especially outside of the peak periods, can present a challenge when it comes to cabin preparations and overly long cabin safety videos are not exactly helpful...

I recall a JFK departure that, from Push to turning onto the Active was 45 minutes.

Also, Welcome to Apron Artist, I presume that your title means that you have been working on airport aprons? Alternatively, a Chef. But you have climbed the stairs and joined the quiet and sublime cabin of PPRuNe. I'm afraid that you have to start off in Y, as do we all. :}

Gatwick can often take just as long, if not longer than Heathrow from push back to take-off during busy periods with single mixed mode runway.

Thank you S.o.S. - yes, I prefer the term Apron Artist to Ramp Rat, which is where I started at Gatwick as a "temporary" job before hopefully returning to a financial services job - which is what I had done for the preceding 25 years. That was 2011. After a couple of months, despite the miserly wages and waking up in pain every day, I found that that I absolutely loved the buzz of it all.

It can backfire. I forget the year and the country but some years ago there was an anti-smoking campaign, aimed at children, whose tag line was "Never say yes to a cigarette". Research then discovered that the words which stuck in the kids' minds were those at the end of the tag line, i.e. "Yes to a cigarette". The tag was subsequently changed to "Always say no to a cigarette"

NORSE Atlantic. Am I correct in thinking that they do not interline with anyone? Genuinely Asking for a friend.