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Thanks MAC 40612
Watching the ghastly scenes from the Taiwan earthquake, you can see people running for their life - and right next to them people stopping to look and behaving in ways we would not imagine. There are similarities to aircraft evacuations, when the brain does not react as instructed/trained. |
Heathrow, Gatwick and Manchester airports not ready to lift liquids limit
Major airports will be allowed by the government to miss the latest roll-out date for installing scanners to end the 100ml liquid limit. London Gatwick, Heathrow and Manchester airports are not expected to have the technology in place in time for 1 June. The delay could last for up to a year. Airports had to apply individually for extensions, which could mean passengers may have to continue removing liquids and laptops from hand luggage until June 2025. Smaller airports such as Teesside, London City and Birmingham have new security screening technology in place and expect to go live on time. A Department for Transport source said the delays were for "genuine" reasons. The Civil Aviation Authority will impose financial penalties on airports that keep missing deadlines, the DfT said. |
Even if you could take more than 100ml liquid, for it to be really liberating, your destination and soon to be departure airport would need to have the same equipment to permit your liquids.
So far, there's not too many. |
Interesting. At LHR T5 this week, I had taken off my boots (they always alarm the metal hoop) and my belt. I was still sent through the fancy wave machine and STILL said that I had to have a pat down AND the metal wand.
The interesting remark from the person was this: "The system shows your lower right leg." So he made careful inspect by hand and wand. Finding nothing, he concluded, "Your trousers were hanging down and sometimes the folds of the meterial on your foot can do it." As I had to take my belt off, it is not surprising that my trousers were drooping! On my way back from EDI, after taking the belt off - I made sure to yank my trousers up. Went through just fine. |
Originally Posted by redsnail
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Even if you could take more than 100ml liquid, for it to be really liberating, your destination and soon to be departure airport would need to have the same equipment to permit your liquids.
So far, there's not too many. |
This sounds like a new kind of misery being inflicted by the staff of the new scanners.
Dublin Airport: Woman asked to remove breast prosthesis at security A woman who had a mastectomy has said she was "stunned" when she was asked to remove her breast prosthesis after setting off a new security scanner alarm at Dublin Airport. Realtán Ní Leannáin, who is from Belfast but lives outside Dublin, was travelling to Donegal. She said she was "like a rabbit caught in the headlights" during the incident. Dublin Airport has apologised and said the situation should have been handled better. Ms Ní Leannáin told BBC NI's Evening Extra programme: "The security officer didn't even offer to pat me down. She stood and waited for me to remove the prosthesis. Fabulous corporate speak. |
PacBoy
I tend to do ok with scanners as a rule, however the belt rule does vary. Always off at Manchester and varied in Munich, always in Dubai for instance. Same with shoes, Deck Shoes waved through but if more formal take off. I do think there is a % stop rate. Cheers Mr Mac |
For 25 years my mother lived on the Isle of Man in her retirment. It was my contention that, because they were a known pathway from Ireland (both sides) they were particularly vigilent. Leaving LHR or LTN, my boots never sounded the old style metalic hoop. Leaving IOM - went off every time. They swore blind that their system was set to the same tolerance as the mainland.
I've not been since 2017 when my brother and I took mother's ashes back to place in the top of the grave of her second husband. |
Originally Posted by PAXboy
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For 25 years my mother lived on the Isle of Man in her retirment. It was my contention that, because they were a known pathway from Ireland (both sides) they were particularly vigilent. Leaving LHR or LTN, my boots never sounded the old style metalic hoop. Leaving IOM - went off every time. They swore blind that their system was set to the same tolerance as the mainland.
I've not been since 2017 when my brother and I took mother's ashes back to place in the top of the grave of her second husband. more likely they didn't have much to do so they cranked up the sensitivity - used to be like that at Aberdeen - you'd sail though LHR/Bristol etc and in exactly the same clothes and the same briefcase you'd set off every alarm in the place in ABZ |
Ah, interesting point, had not thought of that. They do need to be seen to do their job.
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Just for fun: who has turned down an upgrade, and why.
Early morning in Abu Dhabi, business class to London. Wise old owl in the queue said ‘if they offer an upgrade, say ‘no’: it will be full of kids running around all night’. I took his advice, colleague didn’t. Guess what? |
Nice story SLF3. That part of the world can often afford front cabin for the whole family. The times I've had an upgrade are horribly few, best was a VS JNB-LHR. I was in PE and then bumped to UC.
Which reminds me of another trip in VS. I was in the A of the second row PE and the first row A/C was two children around 10 or 12, boy and girl. Their parents were in the last row of UC in A/C. very sensible. After the meal, the children were playing the (at time) enhanced ICE games in UC and parents were sleeping in PE. To be fair the children were well behaved. |
SLF3
I have only been upgraded a handful of times in my whole life so doubtful I would turn it down. It’s odd to have kids coming out of the Middle East at this time, as I thought schools had already gone back following Easter Break in UK, and it’s way too early for the summer fleeing to Europe etc to avoid summer heat ? Also don’t ETIHAD have suites in Business Class so you would be insulated from Rug Rats ? I have never flown with them or if I have it’s along time ago so I maybe wrong on that point. Cheers Mr Mac |
Originally Posted by PAXboy
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Nice story SLF3. That part of the world can often afford front cabin for the whole family. The times I've had an upgrade are horribly few, best was a VS JNB-LHR. I was in PE and then bumped to UC..
Trouble is, (and apologies I know I keep banging on about it), but I just can't use Virgin anymore down to JNB because of that damn 787 they operate with their centrally controlled dimming of windows. It annoys the hell out of me that airlines can even consider this as an option. At least BA is now operating the 777 for BA55 for summer (I think), and so hopefully lessening the chance of delays/canx that seem to happen on a regular basis with the A380! |
Indeed Helol, as we have agreed in the past. Normally, we ride the wonderful A380 out and back. But, this year, we had run down our stock of Avios and accrued so many VS points that we had no choice.I agree that the UC lounge is breathtaking. We are doing a circular this time, with the daylight back from CPT, so will see what their UC lounge is like.
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Mystery travel is having a moment – here’s how to do it, and what to expect This rising travel trend aims to put the fun and adventure back into travel, but is it worth the hype? It’s 7am in Copenhagen airport. The departures board lists the destination for my 9.25am flight as ‘unknown Schengen’ while my boarding card, when I get it, lists the destination as ‘fictitious’. I have a suitcase full of probably the wrong clothes, and a few concerns, but I’m still excited for a trip into the unknown. I’ve joined SAS’s inaugural ‘Destination Unknown’ trip, a voyage where the final destination is a closely guarded secret and the 180 passengers boarding the flight have no idea where we’re going. All we’ve been told is it’ll be 20C and we should pack swimwear. |
where the final destination is a closely guarded secret and the 180 passengers boarding the flight have no idea where we’re going |
"It’s 7am in Copenhagen airport. The departures board lists the destination for my 9.25am flight as ‘unknown Schengen’ while my boarding card, when I get it, lists the destination as ‘fictitious’."
Its always fun on the (very) early flight out of Santiago Chile on a Saturday. The CC announce "welcome etc etc to your LAN Chile flight to Punta Arenas, Rio Gallegos & Mt Pleasant" There's always at least one passenger who asks "where the hell is Mt Pleasant" - and throws a complete wobbly when they realise it's in the Falklands/Malvinas..................... even itf they're getting off in PA. |
Points / Cards: Whilst AmEx have a big tie-up with BA, is there a VISA or Mastercard that does the same? Used to be Tesco but they changed to VS.
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PAXBOY
EK used to have a great one in the UK with MBNA and used to rack the points up very quickly. Unfortunately EK canned the card due to a change in governance on cards or some such thing in UK. Cheers Mr Mac |
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