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Hotel Tango 22nd Oct 2017 10:32

This subject comes up on this forum periodically. I can relate to both sides of the argument and as such can't come up with a suitable solution which would please all parties. It's just one of those unsolvable problems.

S.o.S. 22nd Oct 2017 14:47

Indeed there is not an answer. Each carrier will state: Our aircraft, our rules. Which is correct. Readers might find this helpful from our FAQ, compiled by my illustrious predecessor, Tight Slot, who was Cabin Crew for many years.


WHY ARE WINDOW SHADE BLINDS OPENED FOR TAKE-OFF/LANDING? - See HERE & HERE

ImageGear 5th Nov 2017 18:13

Full HD interactive exterior cameras and a decent screen would go some way to alleviating the problem. (I prefer seat 0A anyway)

Load Toad 6th Nov 2017 02:40

The procedure on some carriers now is; serve the meal, blinds down, cabin temp up - hope the passengers fall asleep.

B2N2 6th Nov 2017 04:00


Originally Posted by Pizzacake (Post 9926090)
If you've paid for the privilege for a window seat, politely advise the CC that you will be seeking reimbursement for the additional cost of the seat if you a denied the use of the window.
If a punter can't sleep, surely they could be provided with an eye mask ??

It’s PUBLIC transportation So let’s try and not be a DOUCHE and forgo the entitlement for the duration.

TimGriff6 6th Nov 2017 08:16

I don't understand where forgoing entitlement stops. Is my entitlement rated higher than yours or is it the other way round? Is one person more important than others and should their needs be met whilst inconveniencing others or should an attempt be made to meet the needs of the majority and make everyone else fit in?

I think that there is a case for letting people know what is expected and asking them to be considerate. It shouldn't be necessary to ask people to be considerate but unfortunately today's world seems to be increasingly egocentric in nature.

It used to be the case that airline schedules explained what meals were to be served and roughly the timing and there is no reason why that could not be reintroduced. Dark times could be set out to match that and everyone could know beforehand what was going to happen. If I know what to expect, I can decide whether I want to take that flight or not. in the case of window blinds, I know for instance that dreamliner will impose a set plan on me. Easyjet in Europe impose non reclining seats to avoid disputes (actually to save money). I can choose to take these flights but know what I am getting. If I don't want them, I can use alternative means of getting to my destination.

There's a whole discussion to be had about the 'rights' of people who are not able to fit in to expected norms but perhaps I should start a thread on that?

ExXB 6th Nov 2017 13:45

Very much a first world problem for both sides of the argument. It could be a hell of a lot worse.


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