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ceeb 10th Apr 2011 15:24

BA Shared baggage allowance
 
Hi Folks,

I have searched the BA site but can't find an answer. Just wondering if two people travelling LGW-AMS can have one checked in bag but share the allowance (i.e possibly 1 28kg bag rather than 2 23kg ones)

Thanks in advance!:)

fincastle84 10th Apr 2011 15:55

I think you may get charged an exess for having an overweight bag.

ExXB 10th Apr 2011 17:29

From here I'd say you would be liable for the £40 heavy bag charge, unless you are a BA Gold or Silver Executive Club or AA Executive Platinum or Iberia Plus Platinum member.

ceeb 11th Apr 2011 09:31

Thanks for that, 2 bags it is then!

Espada III 13th Apr 2011 08:16

Most airlines will let you share weight but you still cannot have a single bag over a specific weight (I think 23kg or 25kg) depending on airline and country of departure.

Some low cost airlines don't even let you do that with family members. If there are two people travelling, each with say 22kg allowance (total 44kg), and one case is 23kg and one 17kg (total 40kg), they will charge for the bag 1kg overweight.

Zetlandia 27th Apr 2011 01:31

Bewildered by BA, not a first.
 
Hello folks,

as I sit here wondering how we'll afford to eat after booking flights from BOS-LHR-EDI-LSI. with BA and FlyBe/Loganair.

I am trying in great desperation to discover what exactely are the hoops one must jump to get the acceptable size of infant car seat into a passenger seat.
The restrictions are such that there are no exsisting seats which would fit them?
Where can I find reliable, realistic and accurate info on how to seat my 6month old in her own car seat in the plane seat.

The FAA are all about this for safety reasons, but I don't see much info coming from BAA, perhaps I'm barking up the wrong tree here too.

goggokids travel mate + car seat = a much easier life for me at least.

any pointers, tips or advice greatly appreciated.

Pitts2112 27th Apr 2011 02:22

The short answer is, you don't. You carry the infant TO the airplane in the carrier, staff take if off you, and you then put the baby in the bassinet you have previously arranged to have in place with the carrier when you booked your ticket. Bassinet mounts on the bulkhead in front of the front row of seats. Works quite well, actually. Gives you a bit of space, the baby tucks in nicely and has at least a fighting chance of getting some kip. And, oddly enough, the armrest height is such that it supports your arm holding the baby quite well for feeding and cuddling.

empacher48 27th Apr 2011 03:21

The best device I've used for my son is this:

Safe Airplane Travel for Kids - CARES Child Aviation Restraint System | Kids Fly Safe - CARES | Kids Fly Safe

It is very cheap, works well and from their website you are able to download the approvals for most Aviation Authorities.

I have been challenged by certain airlines, but providing either FAA (or whatever country's authority) letter has usually satisfied those who question it.

It should be noted that this device is designed for children over 22 pounds or about 10kg, My son was that weight at 6 months.

parabellum 27th Apr 2011 05:00

Zetlandia - Not sure if it is still the case but as the child is only six months old it would normally travel for free. If you want to use a car seat in the aircraft you will first have to buy a seat for the baby so that the car seat can be attached. The bassinet solution suggested above may do it for you? You will have to reserve those bulkhead seats though.

Some information here:

Google

scr1 27th Apr 2011 07:28

the baby will have to go your knee for the edi-lsi sector, a/c is small and has no bulkhead seats or room for car seat in cabin.

i know you are not flying with them but easy jets policy is hear

Can I take a car seat on board?

would think that ba will be the same

handsfree 27th Apr 2011 07:51

From the BA website

British Airways - Travelling with children

Car type safety seats

You may prefer to use your own car type safety seat, which must meet the following standards:
  • The seat must be designed to be secured by means of a normal aircraft single lap strap and face the same direction as the passenger seat on which it is positioned.
  • A purpose-designed children's car seat must have a 5-point restraining harness.
  • The car seat must not exceed the dimensions of the aircraft seat.
  • The maximum dimensions of the seat must fit into an area of 45cm x 45cm (17.5ins x 17.5ins).

Please note: Two part car seats, where there is the seat and a base are not suitable for use on aircraft seats.

Pitts2112 27th Apr 2011 12:08

Oh, forgot a couple of details.

For take-off and landing, the cabin crew will give you a seat belt loop that goes through your seat belt and then around the baby. The baby has to be in your lap and so belted in for takeoff and landing.

The bassinet solution means you only buy your seat. Children under, I think 2 or 3 or so, travel for free but they have to be on your lap.

It's not as inconvenient as it all sounds. For short sectors, having the baby in your lap isn't really that much of a problem and, on long sectors, having the baby in the bassinet is actually a godsend. Ours slept almost all the way from London to Sao Paulo but, when she did need handling, getting her in and out of the bassinet was far easier than trying to get her in and our of a carseat.

The best baby-survival tip I ever saw was the dad who, when both he and his wife tried half-heartedly for a half hour to quiet their spoiled, hollering, tantrumming 3 year old, stood up, extracted a small box out of the overhead bin, opened it, and then proceeded to offer everyone around them a set of foam earplugs. That act alone not only cracked us all up but also relieved the tension caused by 20 or so passengers getting really annoyed because Mom and Dad seemed oblivious, or unable to control, their screaming kid. Both parents were useless at controlling the kid, but at least Dad was under no illusions about his darling little monster.

Zetlandia 28th Apr 2011 21:11

Kangaroo Belts.
 
Thank you for your responses.

I'm really trying to figure out which of the zillions of car seats will be permitted on board, the guidlines are sparse.

I'm not a fan of the old kangaroo belt systems, and as I'm travelling alone with baby will appreciate her own seat for the extra room.
NB: All bulkhead/cot seats are already booked on both cross-pond flights.

Shouldv'e flown world traveller plus,but at almost $2000 extra it's hard to know what's ever best.

Pitts2112 29th Apr 2011 00:00

For an extra $2,000 another carrier or a different flight would be my guess.

I know this seems obvious but BA is not the only, and not even the best, carrier, depending on where you're flying from (and I used to work for BA).

If all else fails, give them a call on the phone. Hopefully they'd be able to give you better info than you're getting online.

frontcheck 29th Apr 2011 14:45

Dont forget that if using a car seat you will have to pay a child fare as you are effectively using a seat that could be sold at a higher fare.

aligee 1st May 2011 22:20

BA - Questions, Comments, Bouquets & Brickbats (Merged) I
 
All too often airlines are criticised for poor service.To redress the balance i would like to publicly thank BA for the outstanding service my party of four experienced recently.

On april 29th we were flying on the BA 18:10 from malaga and arrived at gatwick late enough to miss our connecting flight (the last flight) to glasgow.On arrival BA had already organised a hotel and meals along with boarding passes for the first flight in the morning.What great service.

I would like to publicly thank the BA service agent at flight connections at gatwick for his outstanding service and attitude, It's people like this gentleman that restore my faith in our airline industry. I know which airline gets my business from now on.
Thanks British Airways :ok::D

PleasureFlyer 2nd May 2011 10:15

There always has to be someone with an axe to grind when anyone comes on here to praise great service from BA.

I will add my sentiments alongside aligee's. Whether LGW or LHR, if I've missed a connection (for whatever reason) the ground staff have always been excellent in rearranging flights, hotel, or whatever else is required.

Betty girl 2nd May 2011 10:23

Thanks for comming on hear with your lovely praise.

BA is very good at providing accommodation and re-booking passengers on flights when a delay is due to them.

Even when the delay is not the fault of BA, they are very good at re-booking through booked passengers and our flight connection centre staff will meet an aircraft whenever possible.

I would recommend to all passengers to book your flights as one journey and then like this example, your forward travel will be looked after by BA if a problem arises.

WHBM 2nd May 2011 12:50

I've found BA a great operator, as pax all along from back in the days of their constituents in the 1960s, and up to 2 days ago.

There's also nothing like being in some airport on the other side of the world, walking down the pier on your homeward journey, and among all the local fleet seeing THAT tailfin livery :)

jethrobee 2nd May 2011 13:49

Its nice to hear something positive about BA, I would suggest that you do something that I always take the time to do, and fill in the form on the BA website to pass the compliment back.

Its always nice to let the people on the ground hear positive feedback rather than the negative stuff.

ulxima 2nd May 2011 17:03


I would recommend to all passengers to book your flights as one journey and then like this example, your forward travel will be looked after by BA if a problem arises
Given the experiences I have been going through so far, this applies to almost all European "legacy" carriers...and to Aeroflot too :E

Ciao,
Ulxima

gr8tballsoffire 2nd May 2011 17:19

So nice to hear something positive about BA. People love to knock it, but it still beats the majority of carriers for service.

In the dim and distant past I have worked in what is now called Flight Connections. Passengers have little awareness of how much work and preplanning goes into looking after people with tight or missed connections.

I judge companies on how they deal with situations when they go wrong and I know that BA, in most cases, is very good at that.

Hambleite 2nd May 2011 20:24

Couldn't agree more WHBM, that tailfin is quite fantastic

GROUNDHOG 3rd May 2011 15:16

Don't ask me why but I have flown many airlines and BA is still the only one that makes me feel 'at home' as soon as I board the inbound flight. See you again in October BA ( waiting for the summer sale!) then its LHR/YVR/LHR.

Torque Tonight 3rd May 2011 17:18


arrived at gatwick late enough to miss our connecting flight
If you were flying FR, you probably wouldn't have arrived late! ;)

(Before anyone goes off on one, I'm teasing)

Ralf Stosser 3rd May 2011 18:59

GROUNDHOG

Maybe you like BA as it is your own kultur?

Me, I like Lufthansa, but not so much Air Berlin.

VintageKrug 4th May 2011 06:55

As Jeremy Clarkson so memorably set out:


Originally Posted by Clarkson
“There is nothing quite as joyous as leaving the hustle and bustle of a superheated Third World hellhole and being greeted on the big BA jumbo by a homosexual with a cold flannel and refreshing glass of champagne.

“Take that away from us and we may as well all be Belgian.”

www.ba.com/welldone

Zetlandia 4th May 2011 20:39

Not concerned about cost of baby's ticket, or that she'll need her own seat.
Would love to know if there is even a car seat in exsistence that is 45cm by 45cm at the base.

Zetlandia 4th May 2011 20:41

I agree BA isn't the best, but being that route is BOS-LHR-EDI-LSI and back risking missing a connector in that 24hour period isn't worth the extra hours in airports or planes for the savings.

I could go KLM to AMS then EDI or AirFrance Via CDG, then spend a night in EDI or get on a boat from ABZ.
I know all the possible common routes.

I do miss the days of free flights, but price isn't the issue, the car seat quest is.

Mr Mac 5th May 2011 12:45

I think Jeremy is a Virgin boy now, (no pun intended) after flying with them a few years back when he can use their service. Enjoyed being picked up by driver at start and end of trips and the stile of Heathrow lounge were amongst the things he liked which BA either did not supply, or were not to his taste.

Betty girl 5th May 2011 13:09

Sorry to disagree Mr.Mac but I have carried him on two BA flights quite recently. He always kisses the outside of the airplane as he gets on and says something like 'nice to be back home' plus a few disparaging remarks about foreigners!! As you might expect!!

He is just as outspoken in real life as he is on the telly.

Maybe he flies with both airlines as I expect he travels rather a lot!

SLFLurker 5th May 2011 19:39

I've just had four flights with BA - none of them bad and one was totally, totally outstanding - from groundcrew at LHR to the end of the flight. Sent a well done off to BA for that one.

Mr Mac 9th May 2011 09:12

Betty Girl I agree with your comments about how much Mr Clarkson flys, and that he may well use both airlines, but he did write an artical in the Sunday Times 2/10/05 titled "I have been seduced by BA" .This was then printed in his book World According to Clarkson Vol 2. The artical does claim that he was a BA fan but he had recently flown Virgin, and was now going to try and use them where he could. However as we both agree given BA,s larger route coverage he probably uses both. As for kissing the plane I must say that I have always patted the outside before going through the door, and have done so since being a child, probably because my Father did the same when he flew Halifax Bombers in WW2.

Happy Cone trails.

c7xlg 9th May 2011 09:40

BA - Questions, Comments, Bouquets & Brickbats (Merged) I
 
Hello...
Does anyone have a good email and postal address for someone fairly senior in British Airways Customer Service or Frequent Flyer programme?

I have had a booking made 11 months ago for my honeymoon downgraded due to a commercial decision from BA, and I am getting zero satisfaction from the person who has address the complaint I entered via their website. I therefore want to send a letter to a real person with a decent level of seniority to express my disappointment with the way this has been handled.

thank you!

TightSlot 9th May 2011 14:37

Interesting... I always pat the outside when boarding, and always pat the aircraft itself when talking about her in-flight. I also have a rule that you must never be rude about the aircraft that you are flying on when it is in earshot - I kid you not!

Flyer70 9th May 2011 14:56

I got this email address from the site CEO e-mail addresses - CEO email address - chief executive officer - managing director - UK - USA - US - America - EU - Asia, it gives the email address of Keith Williams, CEO, British Airways, as [email protected].
Hope this helps.

ExXB 9th May 2011 15:25


Originally Posted by c7xlg (Post 6437970)
Hello...
Does anyone have a good email and postal address for someone fairly senior in British Airways Customer Service or Frequent Flyer programme?

I have had a booking made 11 months ago for my honeymoon downgraded due to a commercial decision from BA, and I am getting zero satisfaction from the person who has address the complaint I entered via their website. I therefore want to send a letter to a real person with a decent level of seniority to express my disappointment with the way this has been handled.

thank you!

I no longer fly BA, because of the very poor way they dealt with me. Even as one of their 'Gold' members they couldn't give a 'monkeys'.

Don't forget that EC Regulation 261/2004 entitles you to 'compensation' of up to 75% of the fare, in case of a downgrade. Now this won't help you get back to where you should be - but perhaps you can use the money in the future flying on their competition. Which I highly recommend.

WHBM 9th May 2011 15:49


Originally Posted by TightSlot (Post 6440235)
I also have a rule that you must never be rude about the aircraft that you are flying on when it is in earshot

Now I do the same when flying say a crosswind landing in the Piper, "Come on now Charlie India, don't waggle your wings" and similar, it amuses who is with me and somewhat takes their mind off the approaching runway being at 45 degrees to the way we are pointing.

Mr Mac 9th May 2011 17:25

I know a few airline pilots in Europe and the Mid East (not all English), and I have been lucky enough to fly in the cockpit on a number of occasions with them. The patting and talking to the plane has gone on a number of times, in perticuler on approach to Kai Tak in Monsoon weather !. My patting of the plane is just for luck but I always do it. It will be intresting to see if any other Pilots / Aircrew/ SLF own up to doing this, or somthing like it, perhaps we should start another thread on this issue ?. Intrestingly Mrs Mac who also flys the world on her own account thinks I am mad doing this, but after a bad flight with Air France last month I did notice a little caress of the air frame on an EK 777 when boarding at Manchester a week ago, but she would not admit it even if wild horses were involved !.

:)

tmclr3 9th May 2011 21:23

BA - why can't I downgrade?
 
Seems like an odd thing to want to do, but bear with me....

I am travelling on a full flexible Prem Economy fare, and want to change my return date. The problem is that the flight I want is pretty full, with availability only in Economy.

My travel agent tells me that BA won't allow a 'downgrade' of my Prem Economy flexible ticket to purchase an Economy seat on my flight of choice. Apparently my only choice is to seek a partial refund of my ticket (unlikely to get much back) and buy a single Economy at inflated cost because the flight is almost full. Paticularly galling since the reason I forked out for a flex fare was because I couldn't guarantee my date of return.

Anybody have any experience of this? Seems an extremely harsh 'gouging' policy to me.....


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