Ryanair Charge for toilet use
Whilst watching MOL discuss his reasons behind everyone using on-line checking, a new idea of his also came up. Every passenger o/b having to pay up to a pound/euro to use the toilet!?
Is this even legal? Fair enough they do this at train stations but there are other places to go. Up there, your choice is pretty limited! |
Thank you, but I prefer to use my own bucket or go out of the window..
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If he said that, I would imagine it was tongue in cheek. . . . . . surely ? :confused:
well then again :eek: := :{ :} |
He was dead serious, Ryanair are looking into it!
He compared railway stations, where you have to pay to 'go', and felt it is a way to increase what he called discretionary expenditure. ppvvmm |
This one could bite them on the bum. There would have to exemptions for small children/disabled/medical conditions, and everybody else would stop buying their overpriced coffee so they didn't need to use the toilet.
Just though. Is an aircraft the only place where women don't go to the loo in pairs |
100% serious. One of his (many used) reasons was again to keep the costs down, as well as if train stations can do it, so can i!! Not his exact words but close enough!
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and soon it shall be a few pounds for using the life jacket....:}
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Just bring a bottle!!! :ok:
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How many "tokens" will the crew receive a day ? 1 per sector ? 1 per day ?
pay your own (like everything else ) The wonderful thing about Ryanair is the mind expanding bare faced cheek of it all. If someone used this in a comedy sketch, people would laugh and just go Nah := our beloved MOL believes however that it is reasonable :ugh: Guaranteed to boost passenger figures. For years pax have been disgusted/perplexed when/if they felt unwell and were told if they wanted a glass of water they would have to pay. I am looking forward to the first court case when some hooligan with a vindaloo tummy dumps in the aisle with the perfectly valid excuse "sorry mate I had no loose change" (only something else loose :yuk: ) For the moment I have to say unbefeckinglievable, but I stand-by to be corrected. :oh: |
Michael O'Leary the enemy of aviation!!!
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I'm sorry but how does he justify pay to go in aircraft by saying train stations do it... surely the correct comparison would be between trains and aeroplanes and trains do not charge to go. If you need the toilet this can be an immediate health and safety issue, it is quite possible to rupture a bladder if anything happens. If he is allowed to charge someones ass seriously needs to be kicked.
Does this guy get off over the world hating him? |
Literally taking the...........
His rants on the TV usually just pass me by but this mornings was something special. He even had the front to defend the £5/person/sector charge just for using a debit card! Claiming that using VISA/Electron is free is bad enough but forgetting to add that it needs to be a Ryanair Visa card to avoid the charges is misleading at the very least. Shame the interviewer wasn't properly armed!
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MOL is such a banker.
If this happens I bet the crew have to pay too. Can you imagine the state of the aircraft after a flight, I can imagine there are people who would happily just use the rear galley as a toilet ? Something should be done about this company, is there no limit to the depths that they are prepared to sink ? They are the laughing stock of aviation in europe. I know of at least one major UK airline that will not use ruinair for crew positioning. Says' it all really...... |
Captain_djaffar wrote:
"and soon it shall be a few pounds for using the life jacket" It would not surprise me if this happened. |
In those train stations I pay to use the toilet, there is always an attendant making sure the facilities are kept clean, tidy and somewhat safe.
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Is this some kind of joke?!
I think they're going a bit too far! |
Assuming they stay as an Irish registered company, he'll find that under Irish law, if he wants to charge for toilet facilities, he'll have to cease selling food and drink on board.
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and soon it shall be a few pounds for using the life jacket....http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/badteeth.gif |
As I've said before: if you want to see the future of aviation (including terms and conditions for the employees!) look no further than trains or buses.
When will the first punch clocks appear in crew rooms? Oh wait, those are already there, they're just disguised as computers to check for emails, OM updates and print out flight plans. :E |
You can guarantee those wee closets are still going to be as disgusting as they are now, even if you do have to pay. You think the hosties are gonna get commission every time a passenger uses the lavatory in their section of the aircraft?
I'll take the train!:ugh: |
The oxygen mask won´t come down until payed for...and each minute costs a coin.
U can take the life jacket on, b ut it wont inflate until feeded with coin...:bored: |
Doug, you're forgetting one important point. The level of training and skills required are just a tad more than a bus or train driver. :rolleyes:
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Why all the drama?
Surely if you don't want to pay for the use of a toilet, food onboard, baggage, checkin etc etc etc...Then don't fly with the airline. I used Ryanair once and never again. Until people vote with their feet things won't change.:E
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At first he smirked and then thought he had got away with it.
Then the interviewer thought he was serious. Personally I don't have a problem with airlines trying to save money. But this is just taking the piss... I don't believe that these BBC muppets should be allowed to conduct interviews with business people and politicians. They are badly prepared, unable to press home a valid point and would far rather interview somebody about feeding squirrels in the Blue Peter Garden. |
The level of training and skills required are just a tad more than a bus or train driver. |
Yawn Yawn Yawn.. The big orange floated the idea of the easyLoo way back as far as 1995. Discussion was along the lines of; well on a flight of less than one hour surely people can 'hold' on, the question was should we remove the toilets and squeeze in more seats to generate more revenue or would we make more money by charging passengers (not crew) to use the toilet (would require a lot of dumps to make big £!). Common sense prevailed and the aircraft were left as they were with toilets but the idea never went away completely. Another consideration was that any such move would drive passengers to other carriers, it was also argued if the revenue from toilet use was calculated then it would be a better idea to just add a few pence to each ticket to achieve the same claw back.
It's all in the perception, wouldn't promote good customer service to charge for a 'comfort stop' would it? but then what do FR know/care about customer service:ouch: |
Today 09:54 Does this guy get off over the world hating him? |
Hell is an aisle seat
I now avoid aisle seats because it seems the occupants of middle/window seats enjoy squeezing past when the table is down and I'm trying to enjoy my (paid) beer.
They can't resist the desire to go powder their noses, even on a one hour flight. I support anything MOL does to discourage them. |
Precisely Wakeup. Which is why I have never, and will NEVER fly that joke of an airline. There are still low cost operators around that treat their clients with more respect. They will get my business. MOL is now taking a big gamble with his business plan (I don't mean the toilet issue in particular). His success will depend on how long the recession lasts. If it goes on longer than his cash reserves can support, RYR will be one of the largest airline collapses in a long time.
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Finals 3 Greens
"Have you got a reference to justify that statement, e.g. a professionally authored report or academic research?" Are you serious ? I bet you're one of those people that insist education levels are improving every year and exams aren't getting easier :ugh: |
The potential pitfalls are very great, I would severely doubt that paying for toilet use will ever happen. Just think of alll the soiled seats because daddy tells his child just to wait a little longer.. people exposing themselves whilst peing in bottles. And the toilet is an MEL item, you cannot charge for that.
This will not fly. |
........and Google added
Ads by Google 3DayPottyTraining.com .........when I accessed this thread :ok: |
40 years ago everyone would think it is a bad joke about non-smoking flights.
30 years ago everyone would think is is a bad joke about meal for purschase. ... year 2015 - everyone claims that charge used to be only 1 EUR when Ryanair first introduced pay toilets in 2010, now BA is charging 5 quid on shorthaul and 10 quid on longhaul... year 2020 - now you can use your Frequent Flyer miles to pay for toilet on all OneWorld alliance flights! :} |
That was quick to get on the news...
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090227/tod-oukoe-uk-ryanair-toilet-d987f7f.html Well If I travel on them...I'll be doing it in the seat... @Cargo I suppose having thought about it...It's the pretending to be cheap...then bombarding you with pay this for that...It's hard to tell until you can put 2 airlines side by side on the same route...and see what each offer... In some cases Ryanair is £60 to poland...where as Virgin trains might be £66 From Manchester-London I also saw LOT £1300 to Gdansk and £60 Ryanair to Krakow... Why? I dunno |
Choice of arrival methods
Shortly the Irish maniac is to introduce a Choice of Arrival Method - CAMs for short. At the beginning of the descent passengers will be asked if they wish to land with the aircarft for a £10 fee or rent a parachute and bale out at 5,000 ft for a £2 fee (£100 credit card held for return of chute)
Just think of all the fuel he will save on that last stage. Good man for intelligent ideas MOM. A disgrace to the whole industry - but lets face it cheap and nasty if you want to travel that way. |
NO such thing as bad press has always been his stand point,
therefore this very thread is just playing into his hands is it not??? I mean the guys doesn't even have to do any of these hair brained ideas of his all he has to do is imply he might and he gets all the intrest he needs. |
MOL is quite right. The vast majority of toilet visits on aircraft are totally unnecessary. Disturbing the two people outside you when you are in a window seat, traipsing up and down the aisle disrupting the passenger service, just to adjust hair or fix lipstick. The potential savings are considerable, for instance, Aircraft weight would be significantly reduced since less water would need to be carried for flushing and hand washing, less ventilation air would reduce bleed air requirement and less use of the lavatory lights would all reduce fuel burn. I understand that what is about to be proposed is £1 for no.1, £2 for no.2 and £5 for nothing at all. PTD is to be used to differentiate.
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To Be honest Todders, at the end of the day...I'll always look at prices...if Ryanair was £20 cheaper than a large friendly airliner...I am going to go with the friendly airline...
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@Tooloose
I'm not sure what a PTD is but I heard a Urinal in the cabin in front of the passengers would be 50p :) |
charges
I'm surprised they don't charge fat people extra...
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