What's the problem? Cattle don't have lavatories (as my mother insisted I call them). Why should pax?

charges
I'm surprised they don't charge fat people extra...



Thing is, he did also mention this, all be it that that its worked out on averages like most airlines. Wonder if the thought has crossed his mind though, surely?!

What's so nasty about it exactly? Not having a go, but I've travelled with FR a fair few times and never had any problems. I take my seat (which is comfortable enough), politely decline any inflight service, admire the view out the window (only downside, have to rush to guarantee a window seat!), then off at the other end.

Ok, it's a bit dry in the cabin (we all know how they use the bare legal minimum setting on the cabin humidifier to save fuel), but hey, you get exactly what you pay for, which aint bad considering.

I've heard all the rumours, but my personal experience leaves me very impressed at what you can get for a few euros...

Just my opinion, Jack

advertising is expensive
 

... and publicity is cheap.

It's a fine principal, used to great effect by Ryanair, and of course the Chairman of Virgin group.

In this case though he may have miscalculated IMHO.

I'm presently half way through a working trip around Europe, and because I'm paying I leave no stone unturned to find the most practical and economical way to do it.

As always FR get their fares checked as they claim to be on the cutting edge of low cost air travel, suffice to say that they do not appear on my (flexible) itinerary because they are not competitive on price for the sectors I am flying.

You can fool some of the people some of the time but ..... :=

Yes but cattle p*ss and sh*t on the floor - is that the future of Ryanair flights?

We don't at my gliding club.

This is precisely why I wil NEVER fly with Ryanair. I'd rather flippin' hitch-hike that make that arrogant B****d any richer.

What's the legality issues of curling one out into a piece of clingfilm like the military do and leaving it in the gash bins? :E

Yeah all well and good whether he is serious or not. But one thing MOL knows is that the great British/Irish/general public WILL put up with this lark as long as they perceive they are getting a cheap flight!

Oh sure, the public might write letters to the Daily Mail, signed Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells, they'll moan to their mates in the boozer, swearing that they would never fly with such an outfit, moan moan and moan again, AND YET, next time they need to go from A to B, if on paper FR are significantly cheaper than the next airline, these people WILL go with them.

Memories are short, cost is everything, moans make them feel better about it to themselves, but at the end of the day, SOMEONE is flying with Ryan, whether they admit or not, and they will continue.

MOL doesn't give a rat's a$$ whether people complain or not! It's marketed on volume of passengers, not customer service. If you can continue to get the punters in based on cheap fairs, who cares if even alot of them swear never to fly FR again??? There will always be others to take their place. And those that swear not to, yeah right, until the next time..........

Look at those Airline type progs on TV, when the lo-co's first started, punters who missed flights expected to be put in hotels, reclaim expenses, blah blah blah....Now, the public, maybe begrudgingly, know to expect sweet FA if it all goes t!ts up, they might not like it, but they've accepted it over time, the opportunity cost of cheap flights, we've traded all the old "priviledges" of air travel, for the 30 quid ticket and hope nowt goes wrong.

I'm no MOL fan, but he knows the public always like a bargain, and until the sheep vote EN-MASSE with their feet, it will continue and he'll continue to smile.

As an EU based operation, Ryanair will be subject to various legislation which makes it illegal to discriminate against people with disabilities. Bladder and bowel problems, in legal terms, are disabilities. He may get away with charging for loos, but they will have to be free for those who have a medical need for toilet access. What price a RADAR (The Royal Association for Disability and Rehabilitation) lock on each loo?

I've not seen a link yet for this story so here's one:

Ryanair may charge for toilet use on planes - Yahoo! News UK

We all knew this day was coming to be honest. I wouldn't be too impressed if I got on the aircraft and found out that I had to pay £1 - 70p more than Network Rail-managed stations, 80p more than attended loos in town centres - to go to the toilet whilst flying. Do they intend to do this when (or if perhaps) they start cheapo transatlantic flights? Making people on an 8 hour flight pay to use the toilet would definitely not be acceptable...

I will say one thing though - if they're going to make passengers "spend a pound to spend a penny" they better invest the revenues into keeping the toilets spotless - I don't just mean clean, I mean spotless! *grumble grumble*

Not me squire. I'd rather shove wasps up my bottom than fly PikeyAir. :*

Never have. Never will. :ok:

I'm not sure which group of people you're speaking for, but I can assure you that I take into account more than just the price of the ticket when I travel in an aircraft I'm not flying myself. For most destinations we have a choice of carrier - a point not lost on customer-orientated airlines.

As poss said earlier but seems to have been ignored, the analogy between aircraft and railway stations is flawed.
Aircraft equate to trains. Airports equate to rail stations. There is no charge for use of toilets on trains in any country where I have used them.

wonder if you can pick up frequent user points.....

as soon as he starts this, they will charge for each piece of toilet paper you use as well. wonder if you get discounts for "lighter deposits"....

Super VC10 said.........


"As an EU based operation, Ryanair will be subject to various legislation which makes it illegal to discriminate against people with disabilities. Bladder and bowel problems, in legal terms, are disabilities. He may get away with charging for loos, but they will have to be free for those who have a medical need for toilet access. What price a RADAR (The Royal Association for Disability and Rehabilitation) lock on each loo?"


Perhaps one way around the legislation would be to put a coin operated lock on the inside of the washroom door-----free to enter, pay to get out. Are you reading this, Mr. O`Leary? Can I have a job?

Yes, I've no doubt you guys won't, and don't get me wrong, I assure you I wasn't aiming any of my comments at anyone on this thread.

So there's two who won't fly Ryan, but that's why I said the public en-masse...

The sample group on here will generally probably not fly FR, and I don't blame 'em. But we're not talking about a group of prooners being his market, it's the "great" public, and there are more than enough who will continue to. Come on we see them at the Ryan desk everyday.

Since there is more legroom in the loo, at £1 a trip I might stay there all flight?

I would gladly pay a pound to spend the whole flight in the loo at least the leg room would be better:O

Why are we still here?
 

Just wondering how long the Mods will let this pile of poo accumulate before it gets shunted off to Jet Blast ....

I would love to be a fly-on-the-wall at a meeting between Michael O'Leary and Fred Goodwin.

People get awarded knighthoods for public service. Is there the opposite of a knighthood?

Jack Harrison