2-4-2 seating
2-4-2 seating
I should know the answer to this, but I don't:
Pretty soon we'll be able to fly to Europe again. If I want to fly from YVR to any european destination, what is the best way to find a carrier that flies aircraft with a 2-4-2 configuration economy.? I refuse to fly the 777.
Pretty soon we'll be able to fly to Europe again. If I want to fly from YVR to any european destination, what is the best way to find a carrier that flies aircraft with a 2-4-2 configuration economy.? I refuse to fly the 777.
I've seen 2-4-2 on a 767 and, believe me, you don't want to fly from Vancouver to Europe in those seats! It's not the number of seats across that's critical but the width and pitch.
There are a number of sites that show you the way airlines cram in the seats. I tend to use Seat Guru but there are others.
If you can afford it consider stepping up a class. Most transatlantic carriers now offer a premium economy with wider seats and more legroom.
There are a number of sites that show you the way airlines cram in the seats. I tend to use Seat Guru but there are others.
If you can afford it consider stepping up a class. Most transatlantic carriers now offer a premium economy with wider seats and more legroom.
I should know the answer to this, but I don't:
Pretty soon we'll be able to fly to Europe again. If I want to fly from YVR to any european destination, what is the best way to find a carrier that flies aircraft with a 2-4-2 configuration economy.? I refuse to fly the 777.
Pretty soon we'll be able to fly to Europe again. If I want to fly from YVR to any european destination, what is the best way to find a carrier that flies aircraft with a 2-4-2 configuration economy.? I refuse to fly the 777.
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Right now direct YVR to Europe the choice is only Luthansa and KLM, both of whom are running A330 with 2-4-2 in Y.
I am with you in declining 777 and also dislike the 787 seating.
I am with you in declining 777 and also dislike the 787 seating.
I've seen 2-4-2 on a 767 and, believe me, you don't want to fly from Vancouver to Europe in those seats! It's not the number of seats across that's critical but the width and pitch.
There are a number of sites that show you the way airlines cram in the seats. I tend to use Seat Guru but there are others.
There are a number of sites that show you the way airlines cram in the seats. I tend to use Seat Guru but there are others.
Ditto on Seat Guru - I always check it when booking a flight. Even if you don't have a choice of aircraft, it tells you what seats to avoid.
I've seen 2-4-2 on a 767 and, believe me, you don't want to fly from Vancouver to Europe in those seats! It's not the number of seats across that's critical but the width and pitch.
There are a number of sites that show you the way airlines cram in the seats. I tend to use Seat Guru but there are others.
If you can afford it consider stepping up a class. Most transatlantic carriers now offer a premium economy with wider seats and more legroom.
There are a number of sites that show you the way airlines cram in the seats. I tend to use Seat Guru but there are others.
If you can afford it consider stepping up a class. Most transatlantic carriers now offer a premium economy with wider seats and more legroom.
The thought of 10 hours in a middle seat leaves me cold.
I have flown in a 767 to europe, but it was AC Rouge, which is the equivalent of traveling by rail in a coal wagon.
My ideal would be A330 or even better A220 but they are scarcer than hen's teeth.
I did a connecting leg from Toronto to YVR on an AC 777. It was continuing on to OZ. I felt sorry for the poor souls jammed in there for another 12 hours.
I have flown in a 767 to europe, but it was AC Rouge, which is the equivalent of traveling by rail in a coal wagon.
My ideal would be A330 or even better A220 but they are scarcer than hen's teeth.
I did a connecting leg from Toronto to YVR on an AC 777. It was continuing on to OZ. I felt sorry for the poor souls jammed in there for another 12 hours.
A 777 is a lot better than a 747......... I find them a bit noisy cp an Airbus or a 787 but otherwise they're fine - even in slave
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Everyone has different preferences and opinions. I dislike B777s as I have far too many scars from those appalling overhead bins!!!
Unlike you, the B747 is still my Queen.
Unlike you, the B747 is still my Queen.
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Personally I just focus on reserving an isle seat if possible and don't worry too much about the overall cabin configuration. Its nice to be able to move about the cabin freely without disturbing the passengers either side of you and being 6.3, I like to stick a leg out in the isle when possible. Also, there is always the possibility of equipment change here and there anyway.
I recall a flight in the early 00's (DXB-BHX) and for the entire flight the gentleman next to me refused to move and let me out.
I recall a flight in the early 00's (DXB-BHX) and for the entire flight the gentleman next to me refused to move and let me out.
I've been mulling this overnight and something else came to me. The airlines don't really guarantee anything about their flights. Not timing, where you'll sit (even if you preselect a seat) and, in this context, what aircraft you'll fly on.
In the current circumstances the little viewing I've done of airline websites to make bookings suggests to me they are still publishing schedules for anything from about 3 months from whatever day you are looking on based on their historical data. What they then do is take a more realistic view of what they think might happen and they then change the assigned aircraft to meet the actual booking levels. What that means is that, if things continue as they are you could book a 777 (despite your misgivings) and end up on something completely different. If things get better you might have booked a 787 and end up on a 777.
Even back when things were stable I've had it happen to me. I booked a 747, checked in online the night before and saw a 747 seat plan, got to the airport and I was given a new boarding pass for what turned out to be a 777.
In the current circumstances the little viewing I've done of airline websites to make bookings suggests to me they are still publishing schedules for anything from about 3 months from whatever day you are looking on based on their historical data. What they then do is take a more realistic view of what they think might happen and they then change the assigned aircraft to meet the actual booking levels. What that means is that, if things continue as they are you could book a 777 (despite your misgivings) and end up on something completely different. If things get better you might have booked a 787 and end up on a 777.
Even back when things were stable I've had it happen to me. I booked a 747, checked in online the night before and saw a 747 seat plan, got to the airport and I was given a new boarding pass for what turned out to be a 777.
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I really regret the 777 when fitted with 3-4-3 seating, so cramped!
They've started 3-3-3 on 787 too. They seem to put too many into business do need to recoup the list revenue by cramming economy.
They've started 3-3-3 on 787 too. They seem to put too many into business do need to recoup the list revenue by cramming economy.
Air Transat operate the A330-200 and -300 to Europe and some of their fleet have 2-4-2 Y seating (others have a 3-3-3 config but have plenty of pairs of 2 seats as well down the back)
Thy do have a Club Class with 2-2-2
Westjet flies the new 787 and its very nice - they have 2-3-2 in Premium Y.
you may find aer lingus has a 2-4-2 config
Thy do have a Club Class with 2-2-2
Westjet flies the new 787 and its very nice - they have 2-3-2 in Premium Y.
you may find aer lingus has a 2-4-2 config
