Has Anyone Flown Commercially Lately?
And so it starts.... not a regular a******e. A special one with a point to prove.
Coronavirus: American Airlines passenger removed for not wearing mask
Coronavirus: American Airlines passenger removed for not wearing mask
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Did you manage to get the Popcorn heated through ! It does not take long in the US for those "special ones" to emerge, though I did think it would have taken a little longer than 24hrs between our post and the AA incident.
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Mr Mac
Did you manage to get the Popcorn heated through ! It does not take long in the US for those "special ones" to emerge, though I did think it would have taken a little longer than 24hrs between our post and the AA incident.
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Mr Mac
"My take was that flying is a miserable experience currently"
I don't think its been fun for 20 years........................
I don't think its been fun for 20 years........................
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I think, to a degree, it depends where you sit on the A/C, and the airline. I have been flying long haul, man and boy, and I would say that given the comforts of an EK/SIN/LH A380 (my chariot of choice) v BCAL 707 (the chariot of my youth, from South America) I would take the 380 every time, though would not mind being a youth again, to do it all over again, with a few small changes of course
Cheers, time for beers with staff in Munich in a bar tonight , yipeee !!!!
Mr Mac
I think, to a degree, it depends where you sit on the A/C, and the airline. I have been flying long haul, man and boy, and I would say that given the comforts of an EK/SIN/LH A380 (my chariot of choice) v BCAL 707 (the chariot of my youth, from South America) I would take the 380 every time, though would not mind being a youth again, to do it all over again, with a few small changes of course
Cheers, time for beers with staff in Munich in a bar tonight , yipeee !!!!
Mr Mac
I'd agree Mac - a BCal 707 from Kano was an interesting experience - or a 4 stop flight SQ-AMS in a DC-10
but you had more room, there was a lot less hassle - no security, no long check ins, planes that were rarely full and critically, the staff had status and saw you as a valued customer (I absolve NW Airlines & BEA from this)
Now we're handled like pigs at the abattoir
but you had more room, there was a lot less hassle - no security, no long check ins, planes that were rarely full and critically, the staff had status and saw you as a valued customer (I absolve NW Airlines & BEA from this)
Now we're handled like pigs at the abattoir
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The day 'Personnel' became 'Human Resources'.
The day 'Passengers' became 'Customers'.
The 'new improved' soap powder is not usually better the 'old rubbish' one it replaces.
Name changes are almost always bad. When companies or their departments get renamed under the guise of promotion and such - it is almost always the opposite. The same is apparent when you get an email from a carriers Frequent programme that announces (in large letters) of the new benefits and advances - then the small letters tell you the truth.
The day 'Passengers' became 'Customers'.
The 'new improved' soap powder is not usually better the 'old rubbish' one it replaces.
Name changes are almost always bad. When companies or their departments get renamed under the guise of promotion and such - it is almost always the opposite. The same is apparent when you get an email from a carriers Frequent programme that announces (in large letters) of the new benefits and advances - then the small letters tell you the truth.
The day 'Personnel' became 'Human Resources'.
The day 'Passengers' became 'Customers'.
The 'new improved' soap powder is not usually better the 'old rubbish' one it replaces.
Name changes are almost always bad. When companies or their departments get renamed under the guise of promotion and such - it is almost always the opposite. The same is apparent when you get an email from a carriers Frequent programme that announces (in large letters) of the new benefits and advances - then the small letters tell you the truth.
The day 'Passengers' became 'Customers'.
The 'new improved' soap powder is not usually better the 'old rubbish' one it replaces.
Name changes are almost always bad. When companies or their departments get renamed under the guise of promotion and such - it is almost always the opposite. The same is apparent when you get an email from a carriers Frequent programme that announces (in large letters) of the new benefits and advances - then the small letters tell you the truth.
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Kano was not somewhere I got to until the 1980,s when I spent some time in Lagos for my sins, so was on DC10 then, but still BCAL, I always felt sorry for the female cabin crew in the tartan uniform in the humidty down there. I do agree with you on space which came home to me when I walked around Duxford about 10 years ago and had a look in the VC10 interior with Mrs Mac. Both of us were surprised at the room in economy, I must have forgot the space we had, or I have got bigger !! Anyway as you say at least we do not have the multiple stops anymore.
Paxboy
Would not disagree with anything you said.
Kind regards
Mr Mac
Kano was not somewhere I got to until the 1980,s when I spent some time in Lagos for my sins, so was on DC10 then, but still BCAL, I always felt sorry for the female cabin crew in the tartan uniform in the humidty down there. I do agree with you on space which came home to me when I walked around Duxford about 10 years ago and had a look in the VC10 interior with Mrs Mac. Both of us were surprised at the room in economy, I must have forgot the space we had, or I have got bigger !! Anyway as you say at least we do not have the multiple stops anymore.
Paxboy
Would not disagree with anything you said.
Kind regards
Mr Mac
Ah- when I flew from Kano it was a 707............... and space was fine - it as the passengers who made it ..."interesting"....
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The joys of Africa ! I once witnessed all the passengers on a regional 737 run around the A/C. and the winners got seats and got to fly, all due to overbooking. I was on a Swissair A/C just having a pre taxi drink at the time, and the different approaches to customer service was a little, stark shall we say.
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Mr Mac
The joys of Africa ! I once witnessed all the passengers on a regional 737 run around the A/C. and the winners got seats and got to fly, all due to overbooking. I was on a Swissair A/C just having a pre taxi drink at the time, and the different approaches to customer service was a little, stark shall we say.
Cheers
Mr Mac
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Lovely stories! Thank you folks. Any thread benefits from 'war stories'. I recall many moons ago, a thread about the old Aeroflot and their cabin service. One regional flight - the cabin crew wore their overcoats due to the low temperatures and served tea or coffee from two large flasks that were stored in the voluminous pockets of the overcoat!
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Lovely stories! Thank you folks. Any thread benefits from 'war stories'. I recall many moons ago, a thread about the old Aeroflot and their cabin service. One regional flight - the cabin crew wore their overcoats due to the low temperatures and served tea or coffee from two large flasks that were stored in the voluminous pockets of the overcoat!
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My Uncle was a precise man (he qualified as a Barrister) and when th 747-100 was introduced, he said he had enjoyed the aircraft but of travelling in Economy, "If you do not wish to see the film [screen projection at the front of the cabin] and you wish to smoke - the Jumbo jet is a six seater aircraft."
Pabloc, he was referring to the very back rows of the main cabin!
Pabloc, he was referring to the very back rows of the main cabin!
Flew CAAC on a B707 PEK-HKG in 1982.
Food was excellent IIRC and I recall VERY CORRECTLY that beer was served in coffee cups, the bottles coming from an unsecured crate next to an emergency exit....
Food was excellent IIRC and I recall VERY CORRECTLY that beer was served in coffee cups, the bottles coming from an unsecured crate next to an emergency exit....
Just flown Malaga to Glasgow. Everything very relaxed and, much to my surprise, very few passengers. I was expecting there to be a lot of pent up demand but no sign of that. Almost all the passengers ended up filling in the quarantine form on arrival in Glasgow as there seems to be no way of communicating that it is required.
Next flight with BA who seem to be doing their best to make life difficult by chopping and changing the cancellations.
Next flight with BA who seem to be doing their best to make life difficult by chopping and changing the cancellations.
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I once thought the seat size had shrunk on 737s and 727s. Brought home the real truth when I met a friend for lunch and he picked me up in his wife's Corvette. Pulled into a parking space and two 65+ year olds could not extricate themselves from the car. He had to pull out of the spot so I could get out and then he couldn't get out when he pulled back in. Forget lunch - drove to the park and had a nice chat. Flight home was really tight!
My memory of arriving in Lagos in the early 2000s was seeing a very dirty Nigerian Airways DC10 partially sunk into the mud at the side of the runway.
More recently, earlier this week flew Manchester to Dar es Salaam via Doha with Qatar. No departures from MAN a good while to each side so security was a breeze – straight through with no queue. Aircraft was a quarter full A359 so plenty of room. Cabin crew wore full body suit including hood and goggles as well as masks. Full service provided.
Similar for the A320 DOH –DAR except this flight was full. On arrival in DAR, sign a form and temperature check. All handled efficiently.
Then a domestic flight on a Dash 8 Q400. Flight 90% full. Cabin crew wore masks and no service (usually a bag of cashew nuts and tea/coffee in a cardboard cup or alcohol). Temperature check on departure and arrival.
More recently, earlier this week flew Manchester to Dar es Salaam via Doha with Qatar. No departures from MAN a good while to each side so security was a breeze – straight through with no queue. Aircraft was a quarter full A359 so plenty of room. Cabin crew wore full body suit including hood and goggles as well as masks. Full service provided.
Similar for the A320 DOH –DAR except this flight was full. On arrival in DAR, sign a form and temperature check. All handled efficiently.
Then a domestic flight on a Dash 8 Q400. Flight 90% full. Cabin crew wore masks and no service (usually a bag of cashew nuts and tea/coffee in a cardboard cup or alcohol). Temperature check on departure and arrival.
" a thread about the old Aeroflot and their cabin service. "
DOES NOT COMPUTE - DOES NOT COMPUTE DOES NOT COMPUTE
DOES NOT COMPUTE - DOES NOT COMPUTE DOES NOT COMPUTE
Not perhaps Aeroflot's direct fault, but several pairs of blue jeans went missing from a suitcase between flights whilst transiting Moscow's Sheremetyevo Airport. Not amused at the other end...