Transatlantic loadings this summer
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Transatlantic loadings this summer
Transatlantic loadings this summer .
It seems it's busy on the atlantic at the moment...
From all I see on the sheets, load factors are high.
I'm coming back JFK-LHR on BA on Thu. night....
any chance of an upgrade to BC ?
It seems it's busy on the atlantic at the moment...
From all I see on the sheets, load factors are high.
I'm coming back JFK-LHR on BA on Thu. night....
any chance of an upgrade to BC ?
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From: Falkirk,Stirlingshire,Scotland
Hi DistantRumble,
Check out this link;
http://flyaow.com/classavailability.htm
and enter your flight detalis.
If numbers to the right of Y read 0 then the flight is likely to be full.
However on British Airways it will help if you have status(have you got a Eecutive club card?)
If you are in WT then you are likely to be upgraded to WT+ only ( double upgrades are rare but they can occasionally happen).
If you are in WT+ then you may have a better chance of being upgraded to Club World.
Regards
TBS
Check out this link;
http://flyaow.com/classavailability.htm
and enter your flight detalis.
If numbers to the right of Y read 0 then the flight is likely to be full.
However on British Airways it will help if you have status(have you got a Eecutive club card?)
If you are in WT then you are likely to be upgraded to WT+ only ( double upgrades are rare but they can occasionally happen).
If you are in WT+ then you may have a better chance of being upgraded to Club World.
Regards
TBS
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From: UK
WT
yes thats what a travel agent sees and shows all the classes and all the different tickets in those classes on the flight.
However, point to note. The max number of seats available shown will always be 9 even if there are 100+. The system shows 9. Less than 9 then thats the number available in the fare/class.
yes thats what a travel agent sees and shows all the classes and all the different tickets in those classes on the flight.
However, point to note. The max number of seats available shown will always be 9 even if there are 100+. The system shows 9. Less than 9 then thats the number available in the fare/class.
Eight Gun Fighter
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From: Western Approaches
Fare Classes
T = Economy coach Discounted.
B = Economy coach Discounted.
H - Economy coach Discounted
V - Economy coach Discounted
Q = Economy coach Discounted
L = Economy coach Discounted
M - Economy coach discounted
S - Economy coach
K = Economy coach Discounted.
Boring isn't it? It's also not a good thing. There does need to be fare structure simplification.
And there are more:
R = Supersonic aircraft.
A = First class Discounted
P = First class Premium.
Qn = Night Economy coach Disounted
YN = Night economy coach.
etc...etc.
B = Economy coach Discounted.
H - Economy coach Discounted
V - Economy coach Discounted
Q = Economy coach Discounted
L = Economy coach Discounted
M - Economy coach discounted
S - Economy coach
K = Economy coach Discounted.
Boring isn't it? It's also not a good thing. There does need to be fare structure simplification.
And there are more:
R = Supersonic aircraft.
A = First class Discounted
P = First class Premium.
Qn = Night Economy coach Disounted
YN = Night economy coach.
etc...etc.
None but a blockhead
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From: London, UK
Coo -- fab site.
I'm going over to SFO on Virgin cattle class on the 8th, coming back on Friday 13th (which means being in the US over 911... should be an experience). According to the Flight Availability site, there are a number of classes with 7 seats free, and none higher -- does that mean there are more but it won't show them?
Also, I haven't flown economy on VS for ages, let alone the SFO DVT Special. How is it these days? I see a good few complaints online...
R
I'm going over to SFO on Virgin cattle class on the 8th, coming back on Friday 13th (which means being in the US over 911... should be an experience). According to the Flight Availability site, there are a number of classes with 7 seats free, and none higher -- does that mean there are more but it won't show them?
Also, I haven't flown economy on VS for ages, let alone the SFO DVT Special. How is it these days? I see a good few complaints online...
R
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From: by the river
The 9 comes from the old codes for 'free sale' - the 7 means what it says - you can sell 7 seats not more - but it suggests in this case that they have just placed a restriction on the free sale and that what they really want if for travel agents to 'request' more than 7 seats in any class.
My guess would be that it is still fairly "wide open".
RT
C= Business Class
D = Discounted Business
J = Discounted Business
My guess would be that it is still fairly "wide open".
RT
C= Business Class
D = Discounted Business
J = Discounted Business
Just another seat number

Joined: Mar 2002
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From: NW UK
Thanks everyone for the useful info so far.
Gofer
From what I remember:
C=Short Haul Business
J=Long Haul Business (No Discount)
W=Premium Economy (Virgin, No Discount)
I guess the use varies between airlines?
Gofer
From what I remember:
C=Short Haul Business
J=Long Haul Business (No Discount)
W=Premium Economy (Virgin, No Discount)
I guess the use varies between airlines?
None but a blockhead
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From: London, UK
Ta...
Did I read somewhere that United is pulling some of its flights that week because of lack of interest? It could go either way - nobody wants to fly, so it's nice and empty, or everyone decides to get a bargain at the last minute and everything's heaving.
R
Did I read somewhere that United is pulling some of its flights that week because of lack of interest? It could go either way - nobody wants to fly, so it's nice and empty, or everyone decides to get a bargain at the last minute and everything's heaving.
R

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From: Location, Location
A First Class Discounted
B Economy/Coach Discounted
Bn Night Econ/Coach Discounted
C Business Class
Cn Night Business Coach
D Business Class Discounted
E Shuttle Service (No Reserv'n)
F First Class
Fn Night Coach in First Class
H Economy/Coach Discounted
J Business Class Premium
K Economy/Coach Discounted
Kn Night Econ/Coach Discounted
L Economy/Coach Discounted
M Economy/Coach Discounted
P First Class Premium
Q Economy/Coach Discounted
Qn Night Econ/Coach Discounted
R Supersonic Aircraft
S Economy/Coach
T Economy/Coach Discounted
U Shuttle Service (Seat G'teed)
V Economy/Coach Discounted
W Economy/Coach Premium
Vn Night Econ/Coach Discounted
Y Economy/Coach
Yn Night Economy/Coach
Source - OAG.
I thought these were meant to be standard?
B Economy/Coach Discounted
Bn Night Econ/Coach Discounted
C Business Class
Cn Night Business Coach
D Business Class Discounted
E Shuttle Service (No Reserv'n)
F First Class
Fn Night Coach in First Class
H Economy/Coach Discounted
J Business Class Premium
K Economy/Coach Discounted
Kn Night Econ/Coach Discounted
L Economy/Coach Discounted
M Economy/Coach Discounted
P First Class Premium
Q Economy/Coach Discounted
Qn Night Econ/Coach Discounted
R Supersonic Aircraft
S Economy/Coach
T Economy/Coach Discounted
U Shuttle Service (Seat G'teed)
V Economy/Coach Discounted
W Economy/Coach Premium
Vn Night Econ/Coach Discounted
Y Economy/Coach
Yn Night Economy/Coach
Source - OAG.
I thought these were meant to be standard?
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From: Falkirk,Stirlingshire,Scotland
Hi,
On Virgin K stands for Discounted Premium Economy Class.
SLF: I personnally found Economy not too bad (as long as you can avoid row 48 I think (the row in front of door 4 as it seemed to have less room than the other rows.)
If you have spare money you could ask at the ticket sales desk on the day of the flight if it is possible to pay for an upgrade to Premium Economy (upper deck on the 747-400). I think the prices can be reasonable (subject to availability)
Regards
TBS
On Virgin K stands for Discounted Premium Economy Class.
SLF: I personnally found Economy not too bad (as long as you can avoid row 48 I think (the row in front of door 4 as it seemed to have less room than the other rows.)
If you have spare money you could ask at the ticket sales desk on the day of the flight if it is possible to pay for an upgrade to Premium Economy (upper deck on the 747-400). I think the prices can be reasonable (subject to availability)
Regards
TBS
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From: croydon international
Maybe they're supposed to be.
But, looking back, we've booked a lot of people 'R' on a european airline which doesn't have supersonic aircraft.
I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't have thought there was a concorde codeshare to Madrid???
But, looking back, we've booked a lot of people 'R' on a european airline which doesn't have supersonic aircraft.
I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't have thought there was a concorde codeshare to Madrid???




